[Grammar] (for) OR (to) --- purpose

[mehmetsaln]

Could you help me to do that. Which one of these is right?

a) It is the best paint brush to paint this wall with. b) It is the best paint brush for painting this wall.
a) This pencil is a good choice to write a poem. b) This pencil is a good choice for writing a poem.



Best regards.

 

[Tarheel]

I don't know why you need to categorize sentences. Also, I have written a few poems, and I have never considered that one pen might be better than another for doing that.

 

[mehmetsaln]

I know these sentences look awkard and nonsense , But I am trying to understand the subject grammatically. You are right, I have should write better sentences. Do you think both of them (a , b)true and can be used in speaking ?

 

[mehmetsaln]

I don't know why you need to categorize sentences. Also, I have written a few poems, and I have never considered that one pen might be better than another for doing that.

Lets talk about your sentences or first sentence, dear teacher.

I have written a few....... for doing that.
It is also used with (to do that) structure.

 

[Tarheel]

It is better to keep your posts simpler and easier to understand. That means they should be shorter. Don't take too long to get to the question. OK?

 

[Tarheel]

Use my sentences if you like.

 

[mehmetsaln]

Use my sentences if you like.

Okey I will make it shorter , please help me .

 

[Tarheel]

Could you help me to do that. Which one of these is right?

a) It is the best paint brush to paint this wall with. b) It is the best paint brush for painting this wall.
a) This pencil is a good choice to write a poem. b) This pencil is a good choice for writing a poem.

All of those are grammatical sentences.

 

[Tarheel]

To say that something is a grammatical sentence does not, of course, mean that it is used. (I suppose I could go to a paint store and ask somebody what is the best paintbrush for painting a wall.)

 

[mehmetsaln]

All of those are grammatical sentences.

Thank you so much Tarheel

If I don't use [in order to], ( This pencil is good choice to pierce the book ) is looking good , isn't it ?

 

[Barb_D]

You might use a different type of brush for a rough surface or a smooth surface.

This brush is the best choice to paint that wall.
This brush is the best choice for painting that wall.

I'd probably use the second one, but I see no difference in one being more correct than the other.

 

[mehmetsaln]

You might use a different type of brush for a rough surface or a smooth surface.

This brush is the best choice to paint that wall.
This brush is the best choice for painting that wall.

I'd probably use the second one, but I see no difference in one being more correct than the other.

I got it. Thank you so much for answering dear Barb_D

As a native speaker , your post which is saying both of them dosen't sound anormal, weird is really important for me.

My construction have been ( What is the best paint brush to paint this wall.)

But the one of my friends warmed me , these below might sound more beautiful to ears. 1( It is the best paint brush to paint this wall with.*
*I mean, at the end of the sentence with a preposition such as with, to, at) or 2 ( It is the best paint brush for painting this wall.)

Do you think prepositions is obligatory to make a good sentence or all of these is good to you.

 

[jutfrank]

Aside from the grammatical differences, there are, of course, differences in use between 'for' and 'to' to express purpose. The frequent confusion may be partly to do with what we understand by 'purpose'. To illustrate, we need to look at coherent examples where only one alternative is possible.

Paintbrushes are for painting. (their intended function)

He bent down to pick up the paintbrush. (the reason why)

 

[Tarheel]

Thank you so much Tarheel

If I don't use [in order to], ( This pencil is good choice to pierce the book ) is looking good , isn't it ?

That would, frankly, be a strange sentence in any language. Surely you would not want to pierce a book with a pencil. That can't be what you mean. Is it?

 

[Tarheel]

All of your "paintbrush" sentences are fine.

 

[BloodSweatTears]

Aside from the grammatical differences, there are, of course, differences in use between 'for' and 'to' to express purpose. The frequent confusion may be partly to do with what we understand by 'purpose'. To illustrate, we need to look at coherent examples where only one alternative is possible.

Paintbrushes are for painting. (their intended function)

He bent down to pick up the paintbrush. (the reason why)

If someone ask "Why are you learning English?"

Is it possible to answer both "To be able to communicate with more people" and "For communicating with more people."?

Or only "to be able to communicate with more people" is correct since the sentence is about the reason why your are doing something and not about the intended function?

 

[jutfrank]

Only "To be able to communicate..." is correct since it's about the reason why.