from vs by

[ostap77]

'' We are going to benefit from them relocating to our city''

OR

" We are going to benefit from their relocation to our city"

OR

" We are going to benefit by their relocation to our city"

OR

"We are gpoing to benefit by them relocating to our city"

Is there any difference between " benefit from" or "benefit by"?

 

[ostap77]

'' We are going to benefit from them relocating to our city''

OR

" We are going to benefit from their relocation to our city"

OR

" We are going to benefit by their relocation to our city"

OR

"We are gpoing to benefit by them relocating to our city"

Is there any difference between " benefit from" or "benefit by"?

Please a "small" comment&

 

[OPENED EYES]

I am not a teatcher

'' We are going to benefit from [STRIKE]them[/STRIKE] their relocating to our city''

OR

" We are going to benefit from their relocation to our city" correct

OR

" We are going to benefit by their relocation to our city" from is better

OR

"We are gpoing to benefit by [STRIKE]them[/STRIKE] their relocating to our city"

"?

 

[ostap77]

I am not a teatcher

Sticks out a mile;-). What I was asking was if there is any difference between "benefit from or benefit by"?

 

[e2e4]

Does this stick out for two miles?

We are going to benefit with their relocation to our city.:roll:

 

[ostap77]

Does this stick out for two miles?

We are going to benefit with their relocation to our city.:roll:

But still sometimes it might be heard that one says '' I insist on you going there" I appreciate you going there not your going there"? Getting back to your question" Taking a wild guess;-) you may not use "Benfit with", usually it's "benefit by" or "benefit from".

I would very much like to tell the difference between "benefit from" or "benefit by"?

 

[TheParser]

But still sometimes it might heard that one says '' I insist on you going there" I appreciate you going there not your going there"? Getting back to your question" Taking a wild guess;-) you may not use "Benfit with", usually it's "benefit by" or "benefit from".

I would very much like to tell the difference between "benefit from" or "benefit by"?

NOT A TEACHER

(1) I do not know whether there is a "rule" that works 100% of the time.

(2) Most sources say that "from" is the most common preposition used

after "to benefit."

(3) Please google: Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary. Then search

for "benefit." It gives one example of "benefit by" and several examples

of "benefit from."

(3) The Newbury House Dictionary (0nline) says:

benefit =

To profit from

To be helped by

(4) Longman English Dictionary Online gives:

Many thousands have benefited from the new treatment.
I'm sure you'll benefit from the visit.

They would benefit by reducing their labor costs.

(I notice that a noun follows "from" in those examples,

and a gerund follows "by.")

 

[ostap77]

NOT A TEACHER

(1) I do not know whether there is a "rule" that works 100% of the time.

(2) Most sources say that "from" is the most common preposition used

after "to benefit."

(3) Please google: Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary. Then search

for "benefit." It gives one example of "benefit by" and several examples

of "benefit from."

(3) The Newbury House Dictionary (0nline) says:



benefit =

To profit from

To be helped by

(4) Longman English Dictionary Online gives:

Many thousands have benefited from the new treatment.
I'm sure you'll benefit from the visit.

They would benefit by reducing their labor costs.

(I notice that a noun follows "from" in those examples,

and a gerund follows "by.")

So basically preposition "by" is followed by gerund. There can't be a noun after "by". What would you say, If one said "Can you please show us how we might benefit by this"?

 

[TheParser]

So bsically preposition "by" is followed gerund. There can't be a noun after "by". What would you say, If one said "Can you please show us how we might benefit by this"?

NOT A TEACHER

(1) I offered those examples for you to make your own decision. I do

not know what the rule is -- if there is a rule.

(2) It is probably correct to say that "from" is used more often than

"by."

(3) In your example, I would feel more comfortable in saying:

Show us how we might benefit from this. ("this" = this situation, this

opportunity, etc.) On the other hand, perhaps others would feel

equally comfortable with "by."

I do not know English grammar well enough to make a definite

statement.

 

[ostap77]

NOT A TEACHER

(1) I offered those examples for you to make your own decision. I do

not know what the rule is -- if there is a rule.

(2) It is probably correct to say that "from" is used more often than

"by."

(3) In your example, I would feel more comfortable in saying:

Show us how we might benefit from this. ("this" = this situation, this

opportunity, etc.) On the other hand, perhaps others would feel

equally comfortable with "by."

I do not know English grammar well enough to make a definite

statement.

I can't come to the conclusion. Would there be any rule when to use "from" and when "by"?

 

[e2e4]

I have benefited from your question.;-)
How I can benefit you this time, I don't know.

 

[TheParser]

I can't come to the conclusion. Would there be any rule when to as "from" and when "by"?

NOT A TEACHER

(1) I do not know any rule.

(2) I think that Opened Eyes gave a good answer to your original post.

(3) Maybe (maybe!!!) we can make up our own rule:


Use from if a noun follows; use by if a gerund follows.

 

[Jaskin]

hi,

Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker;

I'd use the preposition by when the beneficiary and benefactor is the same person/institution etc.

Cheers

 

[ostap77]

hi,

Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker;

I'd use the preposition by when the beneficiary and benefactor is the same person/institution etc.

Cheers

You mean like this "I'll benefit by going to the meating" and "I'll benefit from the presence at the meeting"?

 

[Jaskin]

hi,.
Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker;

or:
I'll benefit from being at the meeting.
Gerund is still a noun.

What I tried to say is that I'd use by or from in

I'll benefit by being at the meeting. (I'll be at the meeting and I'll benefit)
I'll benefit from being at the meeting.

but definitely prefer from to by in sentences like :

I'll benefit from your presence at the meeting.

cheers

 

[e2e4]

NOT A TEACHER

(1) I do not know any rule.

(2) I think that Opened Eyes gave a good answer to your original post.

(3) Maybe (maybe!!!) we can make up our own rule:


Use from if a noun follows; use by if a gerund follows.

You mean like this "I'll benefit by going to the meating" and "I'll benefit from the presence at the meeting"?

"Going" here in this sentence isn't the gerund.
I'd say it is the present participle.
So I'd say, use "by" if the present participle form is used with the word benefit and use "from" if a noun is used.

The gerund isn't a verb but noun.

 

[Jaskin]

Hi,
Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker;

"I'll benefit by going to the meating"

"Going" here in this sentence isn't the gerund.
I'd say it is the present participle.

so what is the noun that the present participle going modifies ?

Cheers

 

[e2e4]

I'll benefit by going to the meeting this afternoon.

going ~ the present participle

I'll benefit from going to meetings. (not the particular meeting)

going ~ the gerund

This is what I thought when submitted my last post.

Anyway I don't know why to use "by" instead of 'from"?
Isn't "from" good enough for all the cases?

 

[Jaskin]

hi,
please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker;
I think we are drifting away from the main topic but anyway ...

I'll benefit by going to the meeting this afternoon.

going ~ the present participle

I'll benefit from going to meetings. (not the particular meeting)

going ~ the gerund

This is what I thought when submitted my last post.

As far as I understand present participle is the -ing verb used as adjective in other words it should modify a noun; regardless whether we are talking about specific meeting or a particular one.
[...] going to meetings.
[...] going to the meeting [...]
cheers

 

[e2e4]

/A learner/

hi,

As far as I understand,the present participle is the -ing form of a verb used as adjective..

The shooting (is/was) going on and on..
Is the going here the present participle or the gerund used as an adjective?

..in other words it should modify a noun; regardless whether we are talking about specific meeting or a particular one.
What is the difference between the specific meeting and the particular meeting?

[...] going to meetings.
[...] going to the meeting [...]
cheers

Going to the meeting, I benefited the fresh air.
Going to the meeting I met Mark.

What is "going" here in these sentences? The present participle or the gerund?