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1) I know we say 'stay up late.' But is it also correct to say 'I go to bed late' to mean to stay up late?

2) I've heard 'get up late.' But does 'I slept late' mean to get up late?
 

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Yes.
Yes.

Not a teacher. This(my) post is not an answer.

2) I've heard 'get up late.' But does 'I slept late' mean to get up late?

Could you please explain how '
I slept late' means 'Get up late'? Isn't the first an act of going to bed and the other one is waking up?
 

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Sleeping late is not the same as staying up late. However, if you stay up late you are more likely to sleep late.

stay up late - go to bed later than the usual time
get up late - get up later than the usual time
 

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Sleeping late is not the same as staying up late.

Could you please explain the difference? I thought both meant practically the same.

stay up late - go to bed later than the usual time
get up late - get up later than the usual time

The other teacher answered that the 2nd sentence is correct. My question was in regards to it.

(I apologize if your post was meant to be a response to OP and not my follow up question.)
 

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I provided as clear an answer as I possibly could. I am not sure why there is still confusion.

All I can do is repeat myself. When you stay up late you go to bed later than usual. When you get up late you get out of bed later than usual.

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If you sleep late, you wake up late and get up late.

I understand the logic but this is not always true. I have a friend who wakes up at 6:00 AM regardless of the time he goes to sleep. I know there are many like him.
 

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Don't confuse sleep late = be asleep until later than usual with go to sleep late = stay awake until later than usual.

Now I understand. I have been wrongly texting my friends 'slept late last night' instead of 'went to the bed late last night' whenever I go to the bed late(Texting happens next day).
 

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. . . does 'I slept late' mean to get up late?

I believe that, in principle, "I slept late" is ambiguous. It can mean:

(a) I slept [until it was] late.
(b) I slept [when it was] late. (i.e., I went to sleep late.)

Consider the OED's third definition of the adverb "late": "At or until a time far into the day or night; at or until a (relatively) late hour."

In practice, however, I almost (almost) never hear people use "I slept late" to mean "I went to sleep late." We say "I went to sleep late" instead.*
 
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I believe that, in principle, "I slept late" is ambiguous. It can mean:

(a) I slept [until it was] late.
(b) I slept [when it was] late. (i.e., I went to sleep late.)
No. To sleep late is a fixed phrase. It means to sleep until a later hour than usual. I'm confident you won't find a single example of your proposed meaning B.

Let's not confuse learners with hypothetical musings.
 

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It's wrong. It should be:

I stay up late every night and regret it every morning.
 

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It's strange that you should say it is wrong when it is perfectly understandable and grammatical and conforms to a certified definition of the adverb "late."
 

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"I sleep late every night and regret it every morning" is nonsense.
 

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What do you make of this example, GoesStation?
I neglected to say "written by a native speaker". I assume the author of the sample was not one.
 

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It's strange that you should say it is wrong when it is perfectly understandable and grammatical and conforms to a certified definition of the adverb "late."
It doesn't conform to the meaning of the fixed phrase "sleep late".
 

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As I suspected, the originator of the incorrect "sleep late" caption is clearly not fluent in English. This card from the same site proves it.
 

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"You'll love not unsubscribing" would look odd to any native speaker. (My reaction: "Huh?")
 

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It doesn't conform to the meaning of the fixed phrase "sleep late".

Consider the following example from COCA:

"They slept at nine o'clock every evening, and tonight was no different for them."

Do you think it is impossible to say that, or that the writer must be nonnative?

If not, what if somebody considers nine o'clock late? Are you going to tell him that he can't convert "slept at nine o'clock" to "slept late"?

If so, how will you answer him when he explains to you that it is possible for "late" in "slept late" to refer to the time at which the sleeping commenced?
 

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Phaedrus, it seems to me you're focusing on what is grammatical where other members (including myself) are focusing on common use.

In common use, sleep late means get up late, not go to sleep late.
 
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