I haven’t had a good meal ever since I’ve been here/there.

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I havent had a good meal ever since Ive been here.

Source: http://www.yygrammar.com/Article/201504/3916.html

I read this sentence on a grammar website. The writer says it means I havent had a good meal ever since I came here. But I think it’s a wrong sentence. It can be rewritten like this.
I havent had a good meal ever since Ive been there. = I havent had a good meal ever since I left there.

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The sentence from the website is correct.
Since is followed by the simple past tense, not the present prefect.
 

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The sentence from the website is correct.
Since is followed by the simple past tense, not the present prefect.
Does the original sentence means this?

I havent had a good meal ever since I was here.


If so, there's a logic problem. "Since I was here" means "since I left here", which means "I'm not here".

I think it will make sense if "here" is replaced with "home". Like this,
I havent had a good meal ever since Ive been home. =
I havent had a good meal ever since I was home. =
I havent had a good meal ever since I left home.
 

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Does the original sentence mean[STRIKE]s[/STRIKE] this?

I havent had a good meal ever since I was here.


Well, since I was here or since I was home do imply that the person who said that had not been there subsequently to relate the experience, unless he had been making repeated trips to the place.
It could have been better to write "since I came here" to describe the point in time in the past up to the present".
As I said, since cannot be followed by the present perfect tense.
 
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Does the original sentence mean this?

I havent had a good meal ever since I was here.
No.

If so, there's a logic problem. "Since I was here" means "since I left here", which means "I'm not here". :-?

I think it will make sense if "here" is replaced with "home". Like this,
I havent had a good meal ever since Ive been home. =
I havent had a good meal ever since I was home. =
I havent had a good meal ever since I left home.

Use the last one and only the last one.
 

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As I said, since cannot be followed by the present perfect tense.
It can. The original sentence is fine.

I havent had a good meal ever since Ive been here.

You could convey a similar message with a past tense, but it's not essential:

I havent had a good meal ever since I arrived.
 

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I haven’t had a good meal ever since I’ve been here/home.

It seems that Tarheel and 5jj have different understanding of this sentence.

Tarheel: I haven’t had a good meal ever since I’ve been here/home. = I haven’t had a good meal ever since I left here/home.

5jj: I haven’t had a good meal ever since I’ve been here/home. = I haven’t had a good meal ever since I arrived here/home.

That is to say, the original sentence is an ambiguous sentence. Do you think so?
 

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I did not use the word 'home' in my response.
 

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"I haven't had a good meal ever since I left home"* is what I said, I think. I definitely didn't use the slash.
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*As it turns out, I didn't say that, but it's a natural, easily understandable sentence.
 
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I’m sorry, 5jj and Tarheel.

May I ask you what you think the following sentence means?

I havent had a good meal ever since Ive been home.

Does it mean this?
A. I haven’t had a good meal ever since I left home.

Or this?
B. I haven’t had a good meal ever since I arrived home.
 

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To me, the most likely meaning is:

B. I haven’t had a good meal ever since I arrived home.

I would drop the 'ever'.
 
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