identify v. recognize v. understand

[hhtt21]

Situation: Lancelot, who is one of the nights of King Arthur, one day meets with his son. But Lancelot didn't know that he has a son.

1. Lancelot did not recognized this young man.

Which of the following sentences are identical in meaning as the original, 1?

2. Lancelot did not understand this young man.
3. Lancelot did not understand this young man was his son.
4. Lancelot did not understand this young man was his own son.
5. Lancelot did not know this young man was his son (I think this 5 convey a different idea.)
6. Lancelot did not identify this young man.

Thank you.

 

[GoesStation]

None of the proposed sentences are identical in meaning to the original.

 

[emsr2d2]

"Lancelot did not recognized this young man" is not correct, hhtt21. Can you see what's wrong with it?

 

[hhtt21]

"Lancelot did not recognized this young man" is not correct, hhtt21. Can you see what's wrong with it?

Yes, I have detected it. It's just my fault. But

1. Lancelot did not recogniz this young man.

Now, would you like to re-evaluate the question?

Thank you.

 

[hhtt21]

None of the proposed sentences are identical in meaning to the original.

What is different with 3. or the one using "identify"?

Thank you.

 

[GoesStation]

In this context, "to recognize" is to see someone and decide that it's a person whose appearance you're familiar with. "To identify" would be appropriate if Lancelot pointed at the person and told Guinevere "That's him! That's the man who picked my pocket!"

 

[emsr2d2]

1. Lancelot did not recogniz this young man.

You've swapped one mis-spelling for another!

 

[hhtt21]

In this context, "to recognize" is to see someone and decide that it's a person whose appearance you're familiar with. "To identify" would be appropriate if Lancelot pointed at the person and told Guinevere "That's him! That's the man who picked my pocket!"

This is a hard case to distinguish between recognize and identify for me.Let's think once were two friends. The fate segregated them. They didn't see each other, say, 25 years. Let's call them Tom and Jerry. When they encountered for a fight, Tom was completely knowing who Jerry was but there wasn't any sign for Jerry to be knowing about the one in front of him. So the dialog started as following.

Tom: Did you not recognize me.

Then in this case did Tom happen to be recognizing Jerry or be identifying Jerry?

P.S: Sorry for bad English, expressing this situation is high of my languagal level.

Thank you.

 

[jutfrank]

Sentence 1 is not really right in the first place. If Lancelot did not even know that he had a son, then recognize is not really an appropriate word to use. The sentence should be Lancelot did not realize that the young man was his son.

You have to be already familiar with something to be able to recognize it. (Tom recognized Jerry because he used to know him.)

 

[hhtt21]

Sentence 1 is not really right in the first place. If Lancelot did not even know that he had a son, then recognize is not really an appropriate word to use. The sentence should be Lancelot did not realize that the young man was his son.

You have to be already familiar with something to be able to recognize it. (Tom recognized Jerry because he used to know him.)

"Lancelot did not recognize this young man. He was son of Lancelot and Elanie, a lady he loved some years before."
In this story, does recognize imply that Lancelot saw his son before?

http://knackbooster.ru/books/books_pdf/book_0049.pdf

Thank you.

 

[GoesStation]

"Lancelot did not recognize this young man. He was son of Lancelot and Elanie, a lady he loved some years before."
In this story, does recognize imply that Lancelot saw his son before?

http://knackbooster.ru/books/books_pdf/book_0049.pdf

No. It means that when Lancelot saw the young man, he did not know who he was. He simply saw a young man.

 

[hhtt21]

No. It means that when Lancelot saw the young man, he did not know who he was. He simply saw a young man.

But JutFrank thinks it is wrong in this post, which you've liked.

Sentence 1 is not really right in the first place. If Lancelot did not even know that he had a son, then recognize is not really an appropriate word to use. The sentence should be Lancelot did not realize that the young man was his son.

You have to be already familiar with something to be able to recognize it. (Tom recognized Jerry because he used to know him.)

Thank you.

 

[GoesStation]

Situation: Lancelot, who is one of the nights of King Arthur, one day meets with his son. But Lancelot didn't know that he has a son.

1. Lancelot did not recognize this young man.

Sentence 1 is not really right in the first place. If Lancelot did not even know that he had a son, then recognize is not really an appropriate word to use. The sentence should be Lancelot did not realize that the young man was his son.

But JutFrank thinks it is wrong in this post, which you've liked.

On second reading, I don't agree with JF. The statement is correct; Lancelot sees a young man whom he doesn't think he knows. Another way to say that is "Lancelot didn't recognize the young man."

I think it's time to move on to something else.

 

[hhtt21]

On second reading, I don't agree with JF. The statement is correct; Lancelot sees a young man whom he doesn't think he knows. Another way to say that is "Lancelot didn't recognize the young man."

I think it's time to move on to something else.

And it is also very common for the case of Lancelot and I still need some clarifications, sorry for making threads longer if this is boring.

Thank you.