It reminds me of something

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Not sure if you are directing the question to me here. We are looking at the verb in your sentence "reminds". My point was:

Oi has an optional prepositional paraphrase using "to" or "for"

This attribute of the indirect object is not available in the sentence we are analyzing.

So we are agreed?

:-|

We are. :up:
One more question, if I may. How would you convince an eager student of 'of something' not modifying the verb but complementing the direct object.
 

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We are. :up:
One more question, if I may. How would you convince an eager student of 'of something' not modifying the verb but complementing the direct object.

Earlier, I wrote this:

I take this view also, the activity (reminds) between subject (it) and object (me) is named by the noun complement (of something).

So "of something" names the activity "reminds".

Other examples:
Jack taught Jill English
He called them pancakes

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I take this view also, the activity is named by the noun complement (of something).

Do you mean the name of the activity is 'something'?
It reminds me of something'. Is 'something' the name of the activity?

So "of something" names the activity "reminds".
Jack taught (to) Jill English -- English = direct object; Jill = indirect object
He called them pancakes -- same as above

This would be tantamount to saying that 'something' is the direct object, which we now know is not.

It reminds me of something.
me = Od
of something ≠ Oi
of something ≠ Oc

It puts me in mind of something

me = Od
in mind of something = Where (metaphorical space) does it put me? It puts me in mind of something. Adverb?

It reminds me of something.
It reminds me thus.

The pp is an adverb? This thing is starting to do my head in.
 

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Remind sb of sb/sth is a prepositional phrasal verb.

According to my grammar notes, these prepositional verbs are followed by two noun phrases, normally separated by the preposition: the former is the direct object, the latter the prepositional object.

He deprived the peasants of their land.
The gang robbed her of her necklace.
Jenny thanked us for the present.
May I remind you of our agreement?
I accused him of the crime.
I blamed him for the crime.
They have provided the child with a good education.
This clothing will protect you from the worst weather.
 

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Remind sb of sb/sth is a prepositional phrasal verb.

According to my grammar notes, these prepositional verbs are followed by two noun phrases, normally separated by the preposition: the former is the direct object, the latter the prepositional object.

Thanks, but my question was related to the function of the "latter" NP.
 

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Do you mean the name of the activity is 'something'?
It reminds me of something'. Is 'something' the name of the activity?

It named the content of the activity "reminds"

This would be tantamount to saying that 'something' is the direct object, which we now know is not.

I am sorry about that, I argue that the function is the same but I regrettably confused it by using Oi and Od pairs in the examples.

I see though that mara has given us better examples to match yours.

I will try to salvage our investigation....

Similar to mara, my grammar notes indicate that there are two main types of ditransitive (verb to two objects) complementation, the basic type where (as in my examples) an Oi is followed by an Od and the other type where (as in mara's examples) an Od is followed by a prepositional object.
 

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Hello Mxleader

"It reminds me of something."

What question would you use to elicit 'of something'? How does it remind me? Would that be fine?
 

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Hello Mxleader

"It reminds me of something."

What question would you use to elicit 'of something'? How does it remind me? Would that be fine?

You can ask a what or who question:
What does it remind you of?
 

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No adverb either? :-( It has to be something. No A, no C, no Oi, no Od. It is not possible.

An independent clause (sentence) may be one of seven types. The types differ according to whether one or more clause elements are obligatorily present in addition to the S(ubject) and the V(erb):

SV, SVC, SVO, SVA, SVOO, SVOA, SVOC.

Which one is our sentence?
 
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No adverb either? :-( It has be something. No A, no C, no Oi, no Od. It is not possible.

An independent clause (sentence) may be one of seven types. The types differ according to whether one or more clause elements are obligatorily present in addition to the S(ubject) and the V(erb):

SV, SVC, SVO, SVA, SVOO, VOA, SVOC.

Which one is our sentence?

Don't you sleep in Sweden? :)

This is the stuff that makes grammar interesting. Some prescribes, others describes. Some say seven, I like 3 with an odd one out (SV).

So why not an SVOC according to your scheme?
 

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Don't you sleep in Sweden? :)

There is no rest for the wicked. :lol:
I wake up with the Aussies, and I go to bed with the Americans. :lol:

This is the stuff that makes grammar interesting. Some prescribes, others describes. Some say seven, I like 3 with an odd one out (SV).

So why not an SVOC according to your scheme?

It makes me dance.
It reminds me of something.

Can you see the analogy? I can. Cool!!!!! Thanks, Mxreader. It is an objective complement, is 'something'. I handle 'remind of' as a multi-word verb. This was a good run for my money. (Can you detect the ambiguity in this sentence?)
 
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It makes me dance.
It reminds me of something.

Can you see the analogy? I can. Cool!!!!! Thanks, Mxreader. It is an objective complement, is 'something'. I handle 'remind of' as a multi-word verb. This was a good run for my money. (Can you detect the ambiguity in this sentence?)

I use analogies a lot, but we always have to be careful of their shortcomings. I can't detect the ambiguity you mentioned.
 

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This was a good run for my money. (Can you detect the ambiguity in this sentence?)

(This was a good run) for my money.
This was a (good run for my money).
 
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