[Grammar] My friend who lives next door was born in April, when most of the celebrities were bo

[nininaz]

Are these bold parts as the none-defining adjective clauses correct? I am not sure about the use of preposition in none-defining clause.

My friend who lives next door was born on April 15, when his father dies on.


My friend who lives next door was born in New York, where most of the celebrities live in.

Defining-relative clause:
He was born on April 15 when his father dies.
He lives in New York where most of the celebrities live

 

[jutfrank]

Let's keep it simple. In the sentence below, the bold part between the commas is a non-defining relative clause.

My friend, who lives next door, was born on April 15.

 

[teechar]

Are these bold parts as the non-defining adjective clauses correct?

No. Your sentences are not grammatical.

I am not sure about the use of prepositions in non-defining clause.

You can. For example,

My grandmother, whom everyone looks up to, will be 85 next month.

I haven't bothered to correct the rest of the post.

 

[Lordblizzard]

Let's keep it simple. In the sentence below, the bold part between the commas is a non-defining relative clause.My friend, who lives next door, was born on April 15.

What if he had more than one friend which is more likely. Would you still think it's a non - defining clause .

 

[teechar]

What if he had more than one friend, which is [STRIKE]more likely.[/STRIKE] possible; would you still think it's a non-defining clause?

Lordblizzard, please correct the information on your profile page.

 

[nininaz]

No. Your sentences are not grammatical.


You can. For example,

My grandmother, whom everyone looks up to, will be 85 next month.

I haven't bothered to correct the rest of the post.

This is my book's example:

"Kate has just been to Sweden, where her daughter lives."

I want to use 'where' and 'when' as non-defining clauses. Could you please give me examples to use them correctly?

How about the following:

My friend was born on April 15, when his father dies on.


My friend lives in New York, where most of the celebrities live in.

 

[teechar]

This is my book's example:

"Kate has just been to Sweden, where her daughter lives."

I want to use 'where' and 'when' [STRIKE]as[/STRIKE] in non-defining clauses. Could you please give me examples of how to use them correctly?
How about the following?

My friend was born on April 15, [STRIKE]when[/STRIKE] which is (also) the date of his father's death. [STRIKE]dies on.[/STRIKE]
My friend lives in New York, where [STRIKE]most of the[/STRIKE] many celebrities live. [STRIKE]in.[/STRIKE]

.

 

[jutfrank]

What if he had more than one friend which is more likely. Would you still think it's a non - defining clause .

If who had more than one friend? It's irrelevant to the grammar of this sentence how many friends anyone has.

 

[jutfrank]

I want to use 'where' and 'when' as non-defining clauses. Could you please give me examples to use them correctly?

How about the following:

My friend was born on April 15, when his father dies on.

My friend was born on April 15, which is the day his father died.

 

[Lordblizzard]

If who had more than one friend? It's irrelevant to the grammar of this sentence how many friends anyone has.

The speaker . If the speaker had more than one friend, how would you identify each of them ? Wouldn't you need to use defining relative clauses to know who's whom ?

My friend who lives on Apple street is a loser but my friend who who lives on pineapple street is cool .

See? no commas .
My point is context matters.

 

[jutfrank]

The speaker . If the speaker had more than one friend, how would you identify each of them ? Wouldn't you need to use defining relative clauses to know who's whom ?

My friend who lives on Apple street is a loser but my friend who who lives on pineapple street is cool .

See? no commas .
My point is context matters.

I see what you mean now. Yes, in your example sentence, the two relative clauses identify the friends. For this reason, we can call them defining.

But with non-defining relative clauses, this is not the case. These relative clauses simply add information. In the written form, we separate these clauses with commas, and in the spoken form with the way we pronounce them.