natural beauty?

[keannu]

How do you say a beautiful woman without plastic surgery? A natural beauty?

 

[J&K Tutoring]

Yes, and we can go further to include a woman who has a pleasant appearance without makeup or other 'enhancements'.

 

[keannu]

Is artificial woman or plastic surgery woman the opposite? We say the latter in Korea.

 

[Raymott]

We don't use those terms. A woman can be beautiful despite cosmetic surgery; her beauty can sometimes be enhanced by it. So, a natural beauty can still be beautiful after cosmetic surgery.
What do you want the opposite of?

 

[keannu]

I mean the woman who is not naturally beautiful, but has gone through a plastic surgery to become beautiful. Her beauty is man-made, not natural.

 

[Barb_D]

How would you even know if she'd had cosmetic surgery?

I use "natural beauty" to mean "without makeup." I would never occur to me to use it to mean "without plastic surgery."

 

[Raymott]

Man 1: That actress, Jane X, has a great body!
Man 2: Yes, and it's apparently all natural.
Man 1: The other one with her, Mary Y, is also gorgeous.
Man 2: Well, she's had a bit of help.

 

[Roman55]

How would you even know if she'd had cosmetic surgery?

Really?

Because it's often obvious, that's how.

 

[Barb_D]

Really?
You'd see a pretty woman and you'd say "Oh, hey, I can tell she hasn't had any work done. Yeah, she's a natural beauty, for sure"?

It would never occur to me scan her face for signs of scars that show she's had a nose job or cheek implants or eyelid surgery or whatever. I'd say "What a pretty woman" and that's it.

If she wasn't wearing in makeup, I might say "Wow, she sure has a natural beauty."

 

[emsr2d2]

Really?

Because it's often obvious, that's how.

It's obvious if she (or he, of course) went to a bad plastic surgeon or has overdone it.

 

[Roman55]

Yes. So when it is obvious, that's when you would know. So, we agree.

Not for the first time, something that started as a question about the English language has turned into a taking of position.

Who cares whether the woman has had surgery? And who said that they were being scanned for signs of it?

keannu just wants to know what we say in English, not whether we approve or not.

 

[jutfrank]

For me, too, a natural beauty is a woman who hasn't had any cosmetic surgery done (even if you can't notice it).

 

[emsr2d2]

We're not taking positions. The original post put both "natural beauty" and "plastic surgery" in the same sentence, suggesting there was some connection between them. The posts which came after brought up the idea that it's obvious when someone's had plastic surgery. We've established that that's not always the case. My initial thought is the same as Barb's - natural beauty is when someone doesn't [need to] use makeup to enhance/improve her looks.
Still, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ;-)

 

[keannu]

An inborn beauty might be a beatuiful woman without cosmetic or plastic surgery, I guess.

 

[emsr2d2]

"An inborn beauty" is not natural/grammatical.

 

[keannu]

I'd like to conclude that there's no such term used by native speakers I'm looking for. It’s just a cultural term in Korea, where plastic surgery is prevalent.