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Are those interchangeable?

Many social enterprises at the same time report of significant drawbacks related to each of these two forms of financing. (Original)

Many social enterprises at the same time report of significant drawbacks relating to each of these two forms of financing.


Testing strategies relating to direct assessment of content knowledge still have their value in an inquiry-*driven classroom. Let’s pretend for a moment that we wanted to ignore content and only assess a student’s skill with investigations. The problem is that the skills and the content are interconnected. (Original)


Testing strategies related to direct assessment of content knowledge still have their value in an inquiry-*driven classroom. Let’s pretend for a moment that we wanted to ignore content and only assess a student’s skill with investigations. The problem is that the skills and the content are interconnected.

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Yes, the two are interchangeable. I must admit I've always said: "related to".

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Yes, the two are interchangeable.
No. That is not true.
For example:
Jim is related to the Nortons. [Here, "relating to" cannot substitute for "related to"]
Relating to patients is the hallmark of a good doctor. [Here, "related to" cannot substitute for "relating to"]
 

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Of course, in your examples they're not interchangeable. In post #3, I thought my reference to the original was clear. What I also said is that in similar situations I prefer using "related to" for no particular reason. So... we're on the same page. :)

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Jim is related to the Nortons. [Here, "relating to" cannot substitute for "related to"]

Great point. I knew there had to be a reason why I down-toned "interchangeable" to "generally interchangeable" when I answered this question of KJOU's at a different forum, where he goes by the name Dude. Hey, Dude, I recognize you.

Interestingly, in sentences like "Jim is related to the Nortons," "related" is not even a verb; it's an adjective. Notice that we can't say "Jim relates to the Nortons" or "The Nortons relate to Jim" with anything like the same meaning as "Jim is related to the Nortons."

But we can say "Strategy Set X relates to Assessment Type Y," "Assessment Type Y relates to Strategy Set X," "Strategy Set X and Assessment Type Y are related to each other." Similarly, using reduced relative clauses, we can speak of the strategy set related to the assessment type or of the strategy set relating to the assessment type.
 

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I answered this question of KJOU's at a different forum, where he goes by the name Dude. Hey, Dude, I recognize you.
;-) Thanks Phaedrus.
Can you please give us the link to that thread?
We need to point out to members something about posting the same question to multiple forums.
 

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;-) Thanks Phaedrus.
Can you please give us the link to that thread?
We need to point out to members something about posting the same question to multiple forums.

Sure thing, Teechar. Here you go: https://thegrammarexchange.infopop.cc/topic/relate-to

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KJOU/DUDE,
Please do not post the same question simultaneously to more than one forum. Doing so wastes our valuable time. Instead, post your question to one forum and wait for replies. If you're not satisfied with those replies, you can try another forum, but please indicate in your thread that you've already asked the same question elsewhere (provide a link), and outline why you were not satisfied with the answers you received already.
 

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"different meaning" is "different usage." It helps. Thank you for reminding me of that.
 

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KJOU, please click 'Thank' or 'Like' in post #9 to acknowledge that you have read it and understand it.
 

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I do understand. Thanks.
 

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I do understand. Thanks.

Can you see the "Like" and "Thank" buttons? If so, please use those instead of writing a new post to say thank you or that you understand. If you can't see those buttons, please put a post in the Support Area so we can try to help you access them.
 

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We're waiting, KJOU.
 

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Okay, I will. Thanks.

I just want to find out what is exactly the difference and I thought there must be some differences, like "mutual inclusion relation."

But No one told me what or why.

I was just double-checking to make sure whether what I thought is right or not.
 
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Excuse me, but can I ask a question?

Isn't it permitted to post the same question to multiple forums?

If doing so can be trouble, I won't.
 

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Are you David?
 

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Excuse me, but can I ask a question?

Isn't it permitted to post the same question to multiple forums?

If doing so can be trouble, I won't.

We recommend posting a question on just one forum to begin with and then waiting for responses. If, after a couple of days, you have no responses or you are unsatisfied with the responses, feel free to post the same question on a second forum. However, when you do so, please provide a link to the question on the first forum so that we can see what answers other people gave.
 

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Are you David?

I have no idea who this comment is addressed to. You should have quoted the post you were responding to. No, I'm not David, by the way.
 

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No, I'm not David, by the way.
Phaedrus is known by that name elsewhere. He regrets bringing that question on, but David, too, dislikes answering questions that are being asked at other forums by the same person without any disclosure of the cross-posting on the part of the member. Nevertheless, since it happens all the time, David tends not to complain about it.
 
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