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It got to the point where she was relentlessly hounded by the paparazzi at her elementary school, resulting in she and her brothers being shipped off temporarily to live in Florida until things cooled down.

Eve bit the apple from the Tree of Knowledge on a Friday the 13th, resulting in she and Adam getting booted out of the Garden of Eden.

The source of the sentences are newspaper articles on the Internet. I tend to use "her" instead of "she" in this kind of sentences. Are both ways acceptable and is there any difference?
 

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I would use "her".
 

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If you remove "and her brothers" and "and Adam" from their respective sentences, it's even clearer that it should be "her".

... resulting in her being shipped off temporarily ... :tick:
... resulting in her getting booted out of the Garden of Eden ... :tick:

... resulting in she being shipped off ... :cross:
... resulting in she getting booted out of ... :cross:
 

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If I don't remove "and her brothers" and "and Adam," should it be: "...resulting in her and her brothers' being shipped off ..." and "...resulting in her and Adam's getting..."?
 
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Yes. It is better with "her." But I don't consider "she" here is wrong.
 

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I think it should be "her".
"... with the result that she and her brothers were shipped off ..." would be grammatical, though I think it's wordy.
 
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It is better with "her." But I don't consider "she" here is wrong.

If "she" was acceptable in this sort of sentences, then we could use the subject pronoun "I" as well. It does not sound correct to me.
e.g. My father intervened and talked to the teachers, resulting in I/my being sent to another school.
 

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If "she" was acceptable in this sort of sentences, then we could use the subject pronoun "I" as well. It does not sound correct to me.
e.g. My father intervened and talked to the teachers, resulting in I/my being sent to another school.

That's what I thought of adding to this thread. I agree completely.
 

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The source of the sentences are newspaper articles on the Internet. I tend to use "her" instead of "she" in this kind of sentences. Are both ways acceptable and is there any difference?

I think it's probably hypercorrection, where people use forms they think are correct and sound good, like people who think tell myself is a posh way of saying tell me, or between you and I is good style.
 
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Write The source of the sentences is newspaper articles on the Internet.​ The subject of the sentence is "the source", which is singular.
 

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If "she" was acceptable in this sort of sentences, then we could use the subject pronoun "I" as well. It does not sound correct to me.
e.g. My father intervened and talked to the teachers, resulting in I/my being sent to another school.

I don't consider "resulting in I being sent to another school" necessarily wrong. Maybe in formal writing, it is better to use "me" but in conversation, it sounds just fine. I would not use "my". Again, I don't think it is strictly wrong but it is better with "I" or "me".
 

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I don't consider "resulting in I being sent to another school" necessarily wrong. Maybe in formal writing, it is better to use "me" but in conversation, it sounds just fine. I would not use "my". Again, I don't think it is strictly wrong but it is better with "I" or "me".

Use "my". The subject pronoun "I" is ungrammatical.
 

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Write The source of the sentences is newspaper articles on the Internet.​ The subject of the sentence is "the source", which is singular.
Thanks for the correction. My first thread on this forum was related to subject-verb agreement, and I (obviously) still make such mistakes.:oops:

Could you tell me if these sentences are correct:

My biggest problem is bullies in my school.
My favourite drink is spirits.
Ten percent of the fruit is rotten.
Ten percent of the vegetables are rotten.
 

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Could you tell me if these sentences are correct:

My biggest problem is bullies in my school.
My favourite drink is spirits.
Ten percent of the fruit is rotten.
Ten percent of the vegetables are rotten.

All correct. In the last sentence, the reader sees "ten percent" as a numerator which could be replaced with a number. You couldn't say "thirteen of the vegetables is rotten", nor can you say "ten percent of them is rotten."
 

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All correct. In the last sentence, the reader sees "ten percent" as a numerator which could be replaced with a number. You couldn't say "thirteen of the vegetables is rotten", nor can you say "ten percent of them is rotten."

Thank you for replying. If I got it right, when there is a numerator, the verb agrees with the preceding noun:
Ten percent of this bread is mouldy.
Ten percent of these loaves of bread are mouldy.
Two-thirds of the meat is fresh.
Two-thirds of the apples are ripe.
(I'm also not sure whether a hyphen is obligatory when writing "two-thirds".)
 

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Perfect. I wouldn't hyphenate the fractions because they aren't adjectives. According to this site, some authorities would hyphenate them. My reasoning is that "two" is an adjective modifying "thirds", as opposed to "two-thirds" being a compound adjective as it is in a two-thirds majority.
 

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My reasoning is that "two" is an adjective modifying "thirds", as opposed to "two-thirds" being a compound adjective as it is in a two-thirds majority.

Exactly my reasoning.
 
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