Shall or Will?

''___ I help you with that?'' ''Thank you very much.''


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Warda

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Hi everyone,
On my side I think 'Will' will be correct in this sentence.
But could you please give the difference between the two words (Shall and Will)?


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saleemabu

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dear,

To my point of view, shall can be used only in this exceptional case
with the subject pronoun better than will which is preferably used other subject pronouns eccept we. Ipersonally prefer using should inthis case instead. thank you very much.

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saleemabu

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dear friends,

There is :up: a slight difference between " offers" , 'requests' and advice.
In this case , it's suitable to use shall with the pronoun " I " better than
will .Do you agree on this? With best wishes.

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Tdol

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You suggest using 'should', which is fine- in American English, it has largely replaced 'shall', but 'shall' is often used in such questions in British English.
 
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sheena55ro

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Shall I help you..? I offer my help to someone

Would I help you..."-- polite

Could I help you..? -- very polite.



All the best ,
 
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sheena55ro

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saleemabu said:

dear friends,
There is :up: a slight difference between " offers" , 'requests' and advice.
In this case , it's suitable to use shall with the pronoun " I " better than
will .Do you agree on this? With best wishes.
saleemabu

Agree !
In this situation we better use shall - Shall I help you ?[I offer my help]

I will do that - willingness-

I shall do that - obligation; duty
e.g.

Mother : Will you help me with the dishes?
I ; Yes, I will .[ I do it with pleasure]
: Yes, I shall [no pleasure, I`ll do it because mother asks me]


Shall I help you ?- - I offer my help
Could I help you? - more polite
Would I help you? - polite

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we can use both of them

but if we follow the rule, we shall use shall, cuz shall come with I and WE.
but shall it had been demolished by the speakers, and they usually use will with all subjects instead of shall.
 

Tdol

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'Shall' is most commonly used in BrE questions nowadays- the I/we shall is mostly found in formal language. ;-)
 

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I'd say 'can be used for I and we'- that usage is very uncommon in American English and not that widely used in british English any more. ;-)
 

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I think 'shall' sounds better and is more likely to be used than 'will' in this case.
 

Epica

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but

i think we can say we will shall return ?

who can answer me its right or no ? :cry:
 

riverkid

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Shall I help you..? I offer my help to someone

Would I help you..."-- polite

Could I help you..? -- very polite.



Would I help you..."-- polite

This isn't a polite form, Sheena, it's a conditional statement. We don't use 'would' in this form with 'I' unless we want to make the conditional statement I mentioned above.

A: Help me, okay?

B: Would I help you, hmmmmm, if you were to pay me I might.

To make an equivalent polite question to "Could I help you?", we use,

Would you like some help?

Would you like me to help you?

[probably some others]
 
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