[Grammar] She's found a perfect spot that no one would bother

[kadioguy]

On the lid of a container, it writes:

Sometimes Carol wants to be alone and read. She's found a perfect spot that no one would bother. She enjoys this precious moment to refresh her thoughts.
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a. She's found a perfect spot that no one would bother.
b. She's found a perfect spot that no one will bother.

I think both (a) and (b) are acceptable, but in (a), the probability is less than in (b).
Is my opinion correct?

 

[tedmc]

How could one be so sure that everybody else would not care about the spot other than Carol. I think to say that "no one will" is being presumptious.

 

[kadioguy]

How could one be so sure that everybody else would not care about the spot other than Carol? I think to say that "no one will" is being presumptuous.

Could you tell me how you choose between 'would' and 'will' in your sentence?

PS Please see the red text.
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presumptious

Misspelling of presumptuous.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/presumptious

 

[tedmc]

You use "will" if you are certain there are no other possibilities. But it is better not to discount other possiblities.

 

[kadioguy]

The main problem for me is bother. We don't bother spots. I think this works:

She's found a perfect spot where no one will bother/disturb her.

I see no reason to use would.

We can use 'that' instead of 'where', don't we? :shock:

Please look at Practical English Usage 3rd.

498.5
when, where etc replaced by that or dropped

After common nouns referring to time, when is often replaced by that or dropped in an informal style.

Come and see us any time (that) you're in town.
I'll never forget the day (that) we met.
That was the year (that) I first went abroad.

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The same thing happens with where after somewhere, anywhere, everywhere, nowhere and place (but not after other words).

Have you got somewhere (that) I can lie down for an hour?
We need a place (that) we can stay for a few days. (BUT NOT We need a house we can stay for a few days.)

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After way, in which can be replaced by that or dropped in an informal style.

I didn't like the way (that) she spoke to me.
Do you know a way (that) you can earn money without working?

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The same thing happens with why after reason.

The reason (that) you're so bad-tempered is that you're hungry.
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[kadioguy]

Sorry, now I know 'bother' in this meaning is a transitive verb, so there should have been an object in the original sentence.
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[transitive] to interrupt somebody; to talk to somebody when they do not want to talk to you
bother somebody Stop bothering me when I'm working.

Let me know if he bothers you again.
Sorry to bother you, but there's a call for you on line two.

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/bother_1?q=bother

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So I think the following three all work:

c. She's found a perfect spot where no one will bother/disturb her.
d. She's found a perfect spot that no one will bother/disturb her.
e. She's found a perfect spot no one will bother/disturb her.

 

[Rover_KE]

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I think the following three all work:

c. She's found a perfect spot where no one will bother/disturb her.
d. She's found a perfect spot that no one will bother/disturb her.
e. She's found a perfect spot no one will bother/disturb her.

Only c is grammatical.

 

[kadioguy]

Only c is grammatical.

Is this because the following?

The same thing happens with where after somewhere, anywhere, everywhere, nowhere and place (but not after other words).

Have you got somewhere (that) I can lie down for an hour?
We need a place (that) we can stay for a few days. (BUT NOT We need a house we can stay for a few days.)

 

[jutfrank]

She's found a perfect spot that no one will bother.
She's found a perfect spot where no one will bother her.

In the first sentence above, the object of bother is the pronoun that whereas in the second it's her.

We normally say bother somebody, which is why the first sentence sounds odd.