'since' followed by the past perfect

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Is it possible to use 'since' with past perfect?

e.g. I hadn't talked with him since I had gone to Madrid.
 
But what's the difference ? I know that usually since is followed by the past simple therefore what's the difference if I use it with past simple or past perfect?

e.g. I hadn't talked with him since I had been in Madrid.
I hadn't talked with him since I was in Madrid.
 
But what's the difference ? I know that usually since is followed by the past simple therefore what's the difference if I use it with past simple or past perfect?

e.g. I hadn't talked with him since I had been in Madrid.
I hadn't talked with him since I was in Madrid.
What makes you think that "since" is usually followed by the past simple?
 
That's how I learnt it at school(regarding the duration form).
 
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Would it be correct if I use the past simple after since in the example above?
 
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