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[irinaofr]

I got stuck with the sentence and need your help. please.

I wrote (suspect that it was wrong):

1)the original birth certificate has not existed since the new one was issued.


Then corrected myself to this

2) ...stopped existing as soon as the new one was issued

How to say that correctly?

Many thanks.

 

[Matthew Wai]

The old birth certificate was destroyed as soon as the new one was issued.

 

[irinaofr]

Thanks.
Can I say it this way:

The old one has not been valid since the new one was issued.

 

[Matthew Wai]

The old one was invalidated when the new one was issued.

 

[tedmc]

The new birth certificate supersedes the original one.

 

[Matthew Wai]

The old certificate was replaced by the new one.

 

[kilroy65]

1)The original birth certificate has not existed since the new one was issued.

The original birth certificate has been deemed invalid since the new one was issued.

 

[GoesStation]

Thanks.
Can I say it this way:

The old one has not been valid since the new one was issued.

Yes, provided a previous sentence tells the reader what the old one and the new one are.

 

[irinaofr]

Thank you everyone for the input!

1) The old certificate was replaced by the new one.
2) The old one has been invalid since the new one was issued.
3) The old one has become invalid since the new one was issued.
4) The old one became invalid as soon as the new one was issued.

Hope all of them are correct.

How about the next one:

5) The old one became invalid since the new one was issued.

wrong?

Many thanks!

 

[emsr2d2]

Wrong.

The old one became invalid when the new one was issued.
The old one has been invalid since the new one was issued.
The old one has become invalid since the new one was issued.

Note that the second and third sentences above do not have exactly the same meaning.

 

[Matthew Wai]

I think the following are the difference between the second and third sentences in post#10.

The second suggests that the old one has been invalid for a period of time.
The third suggests that the old one has recently become invalid.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[tedmc]

I think validity is not an issue when a new document replaces/supersedes an old document.

 

[GoesStation]

I think validity is not an issue when a new document replaces/supersedes an old document.

I disagree. Suppose the documents in question are contracts. The old contract remains in effect until the new one supersedes it at 10:00 AM. In that case, the old one was valid until 9:59:59 AM, and the new one became valid at 10:00.

 

[Matthew Wai]

I think s/he means that the old one will automatically become invalid when the new one replaces it, so there is no need to mention validity in the OP's sentences.