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Could you please have a look at the exercise number 8 and tell me how such exercises must be completed? Perhaps there is a rule. How do you match stress patterns with the sentences?
I tried several times, but I coudn't upload the picture. Could someone help me please?

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Can you provide a link to the page you are looking at? (The https// line at the top of the page.)
 
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You look at where the stress(es) would occur in normal speech.
 

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Can you provide a link to the page you are looking at? (The https// line at the top of the page.)

I was going to upload a screenshot from the book. Is it possible to privide a link to the book which I have in pdf?
 

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I don't know, but I expect somebody with more technical expertise can do that.
 

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I don't know, but I expect somebody with more technical expertise can do that.

I hope so. It lets me upload it... then suddenly the picture is gone.
 

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I was going to upload a screenshot from the book. Is it possible to privide a link to the book which I have in pdf?

You can upload the screenshot. The link to the pdf would have to be to an online link.
 

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This is the link to the pdf file:///C:/Users/Home/Downloads/new_inspiration_2_workbook.pdf
Please see page 57, exercise #8.
 

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This is the link to the pdf file:///C:/Users/Home/Downloads/new_inspiration_2_workbook.pdf
Please see page 57, exercise #8.
That's the file's location on your computer. It won't help anyone here. :-(
 

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Pattern C has five syllables. All the others have four, so you can easily match the five-syllable sentences with C.

Have you watched videos and read about tonic accent in English?
 

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Pattern C has five syllables. All the others have four, so you can easily match the five-syllable sentences with C.

Have you watched videos and read about tonic accent in English?

I will have to ask very basic questions. How do you count syllables in those sentences? Generally, we count them by the amout of the vowels in a word. But ....which of these sentences are five-syllable sentences and which of them four-syllable sentences?
No, I haven't. I will google it.
 

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Is there recorded material to listen to when you do this exercise? If there is you should be able to hear the stresses in each sentence. For example,. the first sentence will be stressed on the third syllable - Are you coming? This can be represented by pattern A. The small black squares represent the unstressed syllable, the large black box in A, boxes in B and C, represent the stressed syllable(s).
No, there is no recorded material. Probably there is but my friend's daughter doesn't have it. Children are asked to complete listening parts of the book sometimes without recorded material. There is no explanation in the book and the teachers don't explain it either.
Why is ''coming'' stressed?
 

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That is a pointless exercise.

Because in the neutral way of asking this short question, the principal message-carrying syllable bears the main stress.

It is possible for the stress to be on 'are' or 'you' to attach significance to those words. lexical suffixes such as -ing are rarely stressed

I don't understand why teachers require their students to complete such exercises then. :O
Should we count the syllables in this way?
Are you coming?
I'm waiting for Jay.
He's on the phone. Should the 'e' be counted?
I'll give you a map.
You can't miss it.
I'll ask her the way.
Can you help us?
It isn't far.
You're really late.
 

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Pattern C has five syllables. All the others have four, so you can easily match the five-syllable sentences with C.

Have you watched videos and read about tonic accent in English?
Just to make sure I don't misunderstand anything, I am asking again... I can easily match them with each other only if I have the recorded material, right? I think such exercises should be in the Listening section of the book.
 
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I don't understand why teachers require their students to complete such exercises then. :O
Should we count the syllables in this way?

Are you coming? :tick: There are 4 syllables.
I'm waiting for Jay. :tick: There are 5 syllables.
He's on the phone. Should the 'e' be counted? Do you mean "Should it be counted separately?"? If so, no. "He's" has just one syllable. The whole sentence has 4 syllables.
I'll give you a map. :tick: There are 5 syllables.
You can't miss it. :tick: There are 4 syllables.
I'll ask her the way. :tick: There are 5 syllables.
Can you help us? :tick: There are 4 syllables.
It isn't far. :cross: This sentence has 4 syllables: 1) It 2) Is 3) n't 4) far
You're really late. :cross: This sentence has 4 syllables: 1) You're 2) rea 3) lly 4) late

I'm not sure about the position of the boldface in your sentences but I put a tick next to the ones where you have the correct number of bold parts.

(Cross-posted with Piscean)
 
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I'm not sure about the position of the boldface in your sentences but I put a tick next to the ones where you have the correct number of bold parts.

(Cross-posted with Piscean)

I thought ''I'll give you a map'' has 5 syllables. The article shoudn't be counted, am I right? If the final letter as in 'give' is not pronounced it is not counted either, right?
''It isn't far'' I was not sure how the short forms are counted. I didn't count n't.
I'll is counted because there is a vowel in the way it is pronounced. /ail/ Right? Sorry I have so many questions........
 

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Many apologies. That was a typo on my part. "I'll give you a map" have 5 syllables. I have edited my previous post.
 

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Note that it is possible to have a syllable with no vowel. While for many speakers there is a schwa sound in the second syllable of such words as isn't, button, bottle, rhythm, some speakers will produce a syllabic consonant,.
How would they be pronounced if we add the schwa sound? I would be very very grateful to you if you wrote the examples. Isn't, button, bottle, rhythm with the schwa sound and a syllabic consonant. I always try to write examples myself but I really don't know how to put them together :S
 
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