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[hooshdar3]

Hi.
In a PDF on Data Base Management Systems from wisc.edu, I read:
"The schema for the result of a given query is also fixed! Determined by definition of query language constructs."

Why it does not say ~the definition of~?

 

[5jj]

That second group of words is not a complete sentence, so it is not possible to say much about it.

 

[hooshdar3]

That second group of words is not a complete sentence, so it is not possible to say much about it.

What is incomplete?~the definition of~?

 

[5jj]

There is no verb.

 

[hooshdar3]

There is no verb.

By tilda, I mean the rest of the sentence.

 

[birdeen's call]

By tilda, I mean the rest of the sentence.

Hooshdar, how can we possibly know what you consider "the rest of the sentence"?

 

[hooshdar3]

Hooshdar, how can we possibly know what you consider "the rest of the sentence"?

I have mentioned the sentence before.OALD also has the same approach.

 

[birdeen's call]

I have mentioned the sentence before.OALD also has the same approach.

Yes, I know what the whole sentence is. The problem is how much of it you have removed. "The rest" of something is only defined if we know what is removed.

The sentence is

The schema for the result of a given query is also fixed! Determined by definition of query language constructs.

Now you want to replace something with "the definition of". The problem is that you haven't told us what you want to replace.

The easiest way to solve this problem would perhaps be your posting the whole new sentence without tildas. (I do think I know what sentence you have in mind but why risk a misunderstanding?)

 

[hooshdar3]

Ok,
I meant
Can we replace"The schema for the result of a given query is also fixed! Determined by definition of query language constructs."

with:
"The schema for the result of a given query is also fixed! Determined by the definition of query language constructs."

 

[birdeen's call]

Ok,
I meant
Can we replace"The schema for the result of a given query is also fixed! Determined by definition of query language constructs."

with:
"The schema for the result of a given query is also fixed! Determined by the definition of query language constructs."

OK. Both could be used and they mean the same.

I write

By the definition of a right angle, we know that α = 360°/4.

but

By definition, a right angle has 90 degrees.


However, this is just my preference. Native writers' usage is inconsistent.

 

[hooshdar3]

OK. Both could be used and they mean the same.

I write

By the definition of a right angle, we know that α = 360°/4.

but

By definition, a right angle has 90 degrees.


However, this is just my preference. Native writers' usage is inconsistent.

My problem is that:
"definition of" is "qualified"

 

[birdeen's call]

My problem is that:
"definition of" is "qualified"

I understand. But, as I said, both versions are used by native writers.

 

[hooshdar3]

I understand. But, as I said, both versions are used by native writers.

"By defintion"doesn't include "of"

 

[birdeen's call]

"By defintion"doesn't include "of"

Yes, but the sentences I gave you were supposed to show my own preference. It's not a rule. There is no rule.

 

[SoothingDave]

There is no verb.

"Determined by definition of query language constructs."

I think it is (supposed to be) understood that "The schema" from the first sentence is also the subject of this sentence. And it needs an "is."

(The schema is) determined by ...

That's the way I read it.