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I understand "to visit without quarantining" as "to visit (Spain) without being quarantined there (in Spain) - for 14 days (as does in China)." Am I on the right track?

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Coronavirus: Spanish researchers say they've found coronavirus trace in March 2019 water sample
The finding comes from a single sample and researchers say more would be needed to confirm the result.
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But the country has begun to reopen and even welcome tourists, with Britons among those able to visit without quarantining despite the UK still reporting hundreds of deaths each week.

Source: News Sky
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...entists-claim-after-waste-water-test-12015612
 

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Yes. On arrival in Spain, [most] tourists will not have to go into quarantine for 14 days.
 

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I understand "to visit without quarantining" as "to visit (Spain) without being quarantined there (in Spain) - for 14 days (as [Strike]does[/Strike] it happens in China nowadays)." Am I on the right track?

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Coronavirus: Spanish researchers say they've found coronavirus trace in March 2019 water sample
The finding comes from a single sample and researchers say more would be needed to confirm the result.
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But the country has begun to reopen and even welcome tourists, with Britons among those able to visit without quarantining despite the UK still reporting hundreds of deaths each week.

Source: News Sky
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...entists-claim-after-waste-water-test-12015612

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Rollercoaster's correction was on the right track but not quite correct. "as it happens in China" should be "as happens in China". "nowadays" is not necessary because the use of the present tense of "as happens" is clear.
 

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"as it happens in China" should be "as happens in China".

If "as happens in China" was excellent in English, why doesn't "as does in China" work well there? They appear to share the same structure and covey the same meaning.
 

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That's because "does" doesn't refer to anything.

"People don't need to quarantine for 14 days (as they do in China)" would work. There, "they do" refers back to "people who need to quarantine".
 

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Rollercoaster's correction was on the right track but not quite correct. "as it happens in China" should be "as happens in China". "nowadays" is not necessary because the use of the present tense of "as happens" is clear.

Wouldn't 'as happens in China' without 'nowadays' be considered that the happening started since China emerged as a country on the world map?
 
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I don't think that misunderstanding would happen because the context has already been made clear - that it's about quarantining due to coronavirus.
 

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Wouldn't 'as happens in China' without 'nowadays' be considered that the happening started since China emerged as a country on the world map?

No. The present simple tells us it's a current, ongoing occurrence.
 

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Wouldn't 'as happens in China' without 'nowadays' be considered that the happening started since China emerged as a country on the world map?

Given the context of what is happening today, is that a particularly logical assumption? We have Covid-19- are we really that likely to be discussing quarantine regulations in the Qing Dynasty? It is always a good idea to head for the most likely meaning. We don't always speak, or write, with 100% precision, but logic comes before pedantry. :up:
 

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...We don't always speak, or write, with 100% precision, but logic comes before pedantry. :up:

Do we really need that comma?
 

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Yes. It closes a parenthetical clause. The first two commas could be omitted or replaced by dashes, but if the first comma is used, the second is required.
 

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It would look fine as "We don't speak or write with 100% precision ..." to me.
 
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