why"this is she" instead of "this is her"

Status
Not open for further replies.

marymay12

Member
Joined
Jun 30, 2006
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
Chinese
Home Country
China
Current Location
China
when the person picking up the phone is just the one wanted on the phone, he /she may say:"this is he/she". But the sentence seems a bit strange at sencond glance. Why not "this is him/her"? Thank you for any help.
 
That link does indeed provide an answer.

Usually I give my name when I answer the phone, which means this situation does not arise. If for some reason I do not, then this happens:

Caller: "fivejedjon?".......Response: "Yes(?)"

Caller: "May/can I speak to fivejedjon, please?"...... Response: "Speaking."

To me, both 'this is he' and 'this is him' sound pompous.
 
Last edited:
Not a teacher.
I'm just wondering if the subjective case(pronoun) has anything to do with this?
My reason for this is:
The word "this" is a pronoun, and he/him acts as a subject complement on "this" therefor we use she/he because it falls under the pronoun subjective case category.

EDIT:
Sorry, I didn't read the above link carefully. I just noticed that the above link alludes to the same conclusion as the one that I reached.
 
Last edited:
... I just noticed that the above link alludes to the same conclusion as me.

:?: ...'the same conclusion as [the one that] I [reached]'. But it's easier to leave the pronoun out, and just say '...the same conclusion', (and leave teachers to quibble about cases!)

b
 
when the person picking up the phone is just the one wanted on the phone, he /she may say:"this is he/she". But the sentence seems a bit strange at sencond glance. Why not "this is him/her"? Thank you for any help.


***** NOT A TEACHER *****


(1) As the distinguished teachers have already told you, there is a lot

of controversy regarding this matter.

(2) NEVERTHELESS, there are a few people who are interested in

upholding the highest standards of English grammar.


(3) Since you teach English, you know, of course, that traditionally,

one uses the nominative case after a linking verb. So in choice

English, one says "This is she/he."

(4) It is true, of course, that nowadays most people say "This is her/him."

(5) You will have to make a decision -- insist on choice English

or go along with what is now popular.

P.S. In some cases, it's a matter of social survival. If a big, tough

American football player said "This is he," probably some people would

accuse him of being a "sissy" or even a person who prefers romantic

attachments with his own gender. In other words, for some people it

takes moral courage to speak "correct" English!!!

(6) As a teacher, you -- of course -- wish to give your students the

best education possible. I sincerely feel that when your students

write English in international correspondence, they will receive more

respect if they use choice -- rather than popular -- English.
 
P.S. In some cases, it's a matter of social survival. If a big, tough

American football player said "This is he," probably some people would

accuse him of being a "sissy" or even a person who prefers romantic

attachments with his own gender
. In other words, for some people it

takes moral courage to speak "correct" English!!!

???????*


*speechless
 
I use "This is she" when the caller has mispronounced my name, a clear signal that it's a soliciatation call. Usually, like 5jj, I say "Speaking" or "This is Barb." I would never, ever say "This is her."
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Ask a Teacher

If you have a question about the English language and would like to ask one of our many English teachers and language experts, please click the button below to let us know:

(Requires Registration)
Back
Top