"Would be" versus "would have been"

[Pink_Flower]

Your Dad would be proud of you!
Your Dad would have been proud of you!

What are the differences between them?

P.S.: Suppose her Dad is dead.

 

[tedmc]

Re: nor can the value it is pointing to be changed through the pointer.

The first is not correct.
Do not capitalize dad.
What has the title of the thread got to do with your question?

 

[probus]

Re: nor can the value it is pointing to be changed through the pointer.

Pink Flower, I am going to take issue a little bit with the answer given by tedmc. Given that her dad is dead, he is no longer aware of things and unable to be proud. So the first sentence, although grammatical, is illogical unless it means "would be proud if he weren't dead." Nevertheless, many if not most native speakers utter similar illogicalities often. So given our descriptionist bent here at UsingEnglish we can't say the first is wrong. All we can say is that the second is better.

I'm completely with Ted in being mystified by the thread title, which seems to be about computer programming.

 

[Rover_KE]

Re: nor can the value it is pointing to be changed through the pointer.

You have not told us the source of the opening sentences.

If you wrote them yourself, in what context?

 

[teechar]

Re: nor can the value it is pointing to be changed through the pointer.

It's okay to capitalize Dad if you're referring to a specific individual.
The first sentence is wrong because "prod" is not the same as "proud".

 

[GoesStation]

Re: nor can the value it is pointing to be changed through the pointer.

Your dad would be proud of you (if he knew what you've done). There's no implication that your dad is dead.

Your dad would have been proud of you (if he were still alive).

 

[Pink_Flower]

Re: nor can the value it is pointing to be changed through the pointer.

I am so sorry about the thread's title. First I had asked a different question and all of sudden I found the answer and then I asked another question but forgot to change the thread's title.

 

[Pink_Flower]

Re: nor can the value it is pointing to be changed through the pointer.

You have not told us the source of the opening sentences.

If you wrote them yourself, in what context?

I have heard this sentence a lot in different movies and I didn't get why when someone's dad is dead, 'would' is used instead of 'would have' and in a different movie named "Hart of Dixie", there was a girl whose dad was dead and after her graduating from a college, she went to the cemetery and put some flowers on her dad's grave. That time her friend told her, "he would be proud of you" and then her uncle said ,"Yep. He would have been proud of you"!

I didn't get why in the same situation, two people used two different verb tense!

 

[probus]

Re: nor can the value it is pointing to be changed through the pointer.

Thread title changed

 

[GoesStation]

Re: nor can the value it is pointing to be changed through the pointer.

Your dad would be proud of you (if he knew what you've done). There's no implication that your dad is dead.

Your dad would have been proud of you (if he were still alive).

That time her friend told her, "he would be proud of you" and then her uncle said ,"Yep. He would have been proud of you"!

I didn't get why in the same situation, two people used two different verb tense!

The first sentence tells the listener that the father isn't present. That's true whether he's dead, in outer space, or unable to be there for any other reason.

The second makes it clear that he's no longer living. The uncle chose that way to express the idea as a way to emphasize the permanent absence of the father.