Do you and your husband often argue about household chores?

[svetlana14]

Context: A friend asks, Do you and your husband often argue about household chores?

Yeah, we do argue about household stuff sometimes. I think every couple does at some point. It's usually over small things, like who forgot to buy milk or whose turn it is to take the rubbish out. Nothing really serious.To be honest, I don't think those little arguments are actually about the chores. Most of the time it's because we're both tired or have too much on our minds. Then even something small can become a bigger deal than it should be. We usually calm down after a while and everything goes back to normal. I guess that's just part of living together.

How do you find my Engish?

 

[jutfrank]

Since this is meant to be spoken English, we obviously can't tell whether it's a spontaneous answer or how good your pronunciation is, but in terms of vocab and grammar it's perfectly natural—indistinguishable from that of a native speaker.

Are you sincerely implying that this is entirely all your own work and that you were unaided by AI? It's clearly a much higher level than your piece about the aggressive dog.

 

[svetlana14]

Yes, it was polished by an AI, which I prompted to be like a native-speaker with the focus on how British people normally speak. I thought I could spend less time of yours and mine for revising my text. My own plan is getting ChatGpt and Grok to craft many similar topics taken from my real life rather than from text books, which I can hardly incorporate into my own life.

 

[jutfrank]

Okay, but then why did you ask us to evaluate your English if it's not actually your English? What was the point of your post?

 

[svetlana14]

Okay, but then why did you ask us to evaluate your English if it's not actually your English? What was the point of your post?

I needed to understand whether the polished version is up to the level of an English-speaking community so that I could responsibly rely on an AI capabilities. So your assistance was great. If you assume that it is not mine, you are right based on the classical approach. I have also checked your platform policy. It appears it does not prohibit the usage of AI, (at least responsible one as Oxford and Cambridge now permit and use) Please correct me if I am not right and I will follow your quidance. Again, it is the polished version, not generated from scratch. The chosen AI was carefully instructed.

 

[jutfrank]

I needed to understand whether the polished version is up to the level of an English-speaking community so that I could responsibly rely on an AI capabilities.

You can assume that every LLM you can find, whether it's ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, Gemini, etcetera, will always write everything in perfect English, indistinguishable from that of a native speaker. In fact, that's the whole point of what they do.

So your assistance was great. If you assume that it is not mine, you are right based on the classical approach.

What's the 'classical approach'?

I have also checked your platform policy. It appears it does not prohibit the usage of AI

I don't know what the forum policy is, or even if we have one, but in my opinion we ought to get one as soon as possible.

(at least responsible one as Oxford and Cambridge now permit and use)

I don't know what you're referring to here.

Please correct me if I am not right and I will follow your quidance. Again, it is the polished version, not generated from scratch. The chosen AI was carefully instructed.

My guidance would be that you tell us exactly what you want to know and why in post #1. If your question here was whether AI can be relied upon to write in natural English, then you should have told us that in the first place. One way to save members time here on the forum is to tell us why you're asking your question when you ask it.

 

[svetlana14]

I don't know what you're referring to here.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/students/life/it/genai-tools/guidance-on-safe-and-responsible-use-of-genai

What's the 'classical approach'?

Total prohibition of AI as the tool for producing texts by students.

My guidance would be that you tell us exactly what you want to know and why in post #1. If your question here was whether AI can be relied upon to write in natural English, then you should have told us that in the first place. One way to save members time here on the forum is to tell us why you're asking your question when you ask it.

You can assume that every LLM you can find, whether it's ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, Gemini, etcetera, will always write everything in perfect English, indistinguishable from that of a native speaker. In fact, that's the whole point of what they do.

My basic concern is based on the comments summarised here https://theconversation.com/how-ai-...decide-when-to-use-artificial-language-277455.

As I mentioned earlier, I wanted to see how much AI has progressed in producing natural-sounding English. Personally, I use it because, in my opinion, it's one of the best ways to study the language, especially with my current situation: not enough time, constant stress, and chronic lack of sleep because of the ongoing Russian terror in Kyiv. I would like to prepare a list of topics which reflect daily routine.

I usually prepare topics first, and then I keep expanding and improving them as I learn more. It's a gradual process, so I don't try to make everything perfect from the beginning.

I also use AI a lot when working with high-quality sources like CNN, The Guardian, Financial Times, The Economist, Foreign Affairs, and The New Yorker. It helps me go through much more material than I probably could on my own, although I still try to check things myself instead of relying on it too much.

 

[jutfrank]

https://www.ox.ac.uk/students/life/it/genai-tools/guidance-on-safe-and-responsible-use-of-genai

I see what you mean. The main point that all universites want to get across to students is the point about transparency. Always make it clear to us when and where any text you post here has been generated, or polished, with the aid of AI. I think this should go equally for learners who ask questions as well as the people responding. I'm noticing more and more that some members are increasingly posting AI-generated answers.

My basic concern is based on the comments summarised here https://theconversation.com/how-ai-...decide-when-to-use-artificial-language-277455.

As I mentioned earlier, I wanted to see how much AI has progressed in producing natural-sounding English.

You don't need to worry about this. As I told you, AI tools will always produce natural English because they are trained on natural language. In fact, it's very hard to get them to do anything else. Any mistakes in grammar or vocabulary will be so rare that you don't need to worry about it. With respect to grammar and vocabulary, nothing really has changed in the last few years. Where improvements have been made, it's in register and style.

Teachers like me have had four years now to develop a sense of whether a text is AI-generated. In cases where we're successful, it isn't because of unnatural grammar and vocabulary but rather that we can identify the typical style that these LLMs tend to use.

Personally, I use it because, in my opinion, it's one of the best ways to study the language, especially with my current situation: not enough time, constant stress, and chronic lack of sleep because of the ongoing Russian terror in Kyiv. I would like to prepare a list of topics which reflect daily routine.

I usually prepare topics first, and then I keep expanding and improving them as I learn more. It's a gradual process, so I don't try to make everything perfect from the beginning.

I'm still not quite sure what you mean. Do you mean that you practise by writing short pieces and then ask AI to correct/polish it for you? If so, that can be a really good way of learning if done right.

I also use AI a lot when working with high-quality sources like CNN, The Guardian, Financial Times, The Economist, Foreign Affairs, and The New Yorker. It helps me go through much more material than I probably could on my own, although I still try to check things myself instead of relying on it too much.

Do you mean that when reading you use AI to summarise long texts for you? This is a very good use of time, in my opinion. In doing this, you can be confident that the AI answer will always produce English that you can treat as a very good and extremely reliable model to learn from.

I wonder what the moderators and editors think about the use of AI as it relates to what we do here on the forum.