[Grammar] helped him to be carried

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I am wondering if this two sentences below are grammatically correct.

Using the passive after "to" makes me confused about whether the usage is wright or not.

They helped him to be carried to the hospital.

They helped the art work to be safely kept in a safe place.
 

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Neither of those is natural. In the first, if "they" took an active part, we'd say "They helped [to] carry him to the hospital". The same goes for the second - "They helped keep the artwork in a safe place". There's no need for "safely" and "safe".
 

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Thanks for your reply. I still wonder if the passive voice is wrong. Is it wrong to use "help + object + to be -pp."
 

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I can't think of a natural example.
 

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Use the active voice as a matter of course—it will usually be the preferable option.

In most cases, you need a reason to use the passive.

Click here and carefully read post #4.
 

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Yes, as you said, the examples you gave are definitely right. But what I am still wondering about is if it is possible to use " help + object + to be +past participle,' or passive voice in any context. Could you tell me whether it is possible or not?
 

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Grammatically, I could say something like "I helped him to be promoted". In reality, I'd say "I helped him get a promotion" or "I helped him get promoted".
 

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