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[Coolfootluke]

Well Coolfootluce! What you wrote in your first reply (that specific part) was in my opinion ideologically wrong. Though you might say that it had nothing to do with ideology. For ideologicall reasons I do not approve of the Offroad's text either but I consider it an English-learner-text.

What you said was simply against my ideology.Ideology matters, specially in a public place, so I had to response, which I did. Now I have done my job and it's finished. You can consider this post as my response to your second reply. I am not going to go on with this discussion.

I do not know what you're talking about. I injected no ideology at any point in the first post. I addressed only the language and its effective use the way I would as a copyeditor for any journalist. I am not having a discussion at all. Pax.

 

[Tdol]

This thread is starting to generate more heat than light. Could we calm things down a bit, please?

 

[mayita1usa]

Hi teacher, thank you for your efforts, however, I can't understand why 'put forth' can not be synonym with 'exert', this dictionary says it can, if I am not mistaken:

put forth 1. To grow: Plants put forth new growth in the spring.
2. To bring to bear; exert: At least put forth a semblance of effort when you scrub the floor.
3. To offer for consideration: put forth an idea.

put forth - definition of put forth by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Thanks

Now I can see why you wanted to use "put forth"! In American English, one rarely (if ever) hears it used as in definition #2, so that's why many of us felt that it sounded wrong.

The important thing is to consider your audience, and decide which wording will be best understood by your readers. (In other words, if your main audience is not American, não se preocupe!) :up:

 

[mayita1usa]

... just the peak of an iceburg.

I understand perfectly, Khosro!

Also, I wanted to let you know that the usual metaphor in English is "the tip of the iceberg," in case you wanted to know.
Do they use the same expression in Farsi?

 

[Offroad]

Now I can see why you wanted to use "put forth"! In American English, one rarely (if ever) hears it used as in definition #2, so that's why many of us felt that it sounded wrong.

The important thing is to consider your audience, and decide which wording will be best understood by your readers. (In other words, if your main audience is not American, não se preocupe!) :up:

I'm going to stick with 'put forth' although 'exert' is much more common.

 

[Khosro]

I understand perfectly, Khosro!

Also, I wanted to let you know that the usual metaphor in English is "the tip of the iceberg," in case you wanted to know.
Do they use the same expression in Farsi?

Yes, tip. I was playing with "head", "peak", ... for some seconds before I chose peak! Yes the same expression in Farsi but you should consider some of these expressions in Farsi as direct translations from English and other languages. Specially when it comes to something like "iceberg" since we are so far from any iceberg that it could push it's way to the Farsi language.

 

[mayita1usa]

... since we are so far from any iceberg that it could push it's way to the Farsi language.

LOL! :lol: I live in Nevada, which is high desert (a location similar to Teheran, I think) and also VERY far from a real iceberg! (I would love to see one someday!)