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[Allen165]

"The signal exiting the band-pass filter has a 100 kHz carrier, which is modulated such that the amplitude represents the TM position."

Is "such" used correctly above? I don't think so.

"Modulated in such a way that" is what I'd write.

Thanks!

 

[White Hat]

such that = so that: used to express purpose or result

 

[Allen165]

Please read the usage note here: such - definition of such by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia..

 

[White Hat]

This “such that” construction, according to the grammarian George O. Curme, is evidence of an “older English fondness for double expression,” with “such and that pointing as with two index fingers to the following explanatory clause.”
The word “such” in sentences like these can have either of two meanings:
(1) “of such a kind” (adjective). As in “Her illness was such that she couldn’t work.”
(2) “in such a way” (adverb). As in “She trembled such that she couldn’t work.”

 

[Allen165]

This “such that” construction, according to the grammarian George O. Curme, is evidence of an “older English fondness for double expression,” with “such and that pointing as with two index fingers to the following explanatory clause.”
The word “such” in sentences like these can have either of two meanings:
(1) “of such a kind” (adjective). As in “Her illness was such that she couldn’t work.”
(2) “in such a way” (adverb). As in “She trembled such that she couldn’t work.”

So you would agree that my rewrite - "modulated in such a way" - is clearer than the original?

 

[SoothingDave]

So you would agree that my rewrite - "modulated in such a way" - is clearer than the original?

The original is clear to me. No need to re-write. Not that your re-write is wrong, it's just wordy.

 

[Afit]

"The signal exiting the band-pass filter has a 100 kHz carrier, which is modulated such that the amplitude represents the TM position."

Is "such" used correctly above? I don't think so.

"Modulated in such a way that" is what I'd write.

Thanks!

such that = in a way that makes the signal meet the required condition
condition = the amplitude of the signal represents the TM position

 

[Allen165]

such that = in a way that makes the signal meet the required condition
condition = the amplitude of the signal represents the TM position

I understood the meaning of the sentence but was wondering whether the usage of "such that" was correct. As you can read on the site I linked to, some people consider it incorrect.

I suppose "so that" would be the best option.

 

[Afit]

As you can read on the site I linked to, some people consider it incorrect.

I suppose you are a physicist and your read extensively in the field. If this is so, you probably have noticed that "such that" used this way is all over the place in written scientific language (maths, physics, etc.).
I am a physicist (too?). ;-)

 

[Allen165]

I suppose you are a physicist and your read extensively in the field. If this is so, you probably have noticed that "such that" used this way is all over the place in written scientific language (maths, physics).
I am a physicist (too?). ;-)

You're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off! ;-)

 

[Afit]

You're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off! ;-)

Does it mean you are closer to being a professional balerina dancer than to being a physicist?

 

[Allen165]

Does it mean you are closer to being a professional balerina that to being a physicist?

Not quite. I studied law and suck at anything involving calculation. Passing my high school physics classes was a major challenge for me.

 

[Afit]

Where did you find this sentence? And what do you need it for?

 

[Allen165]

Where did you find this sentence? And what do you need it for?

I read it in a paper a friend of mine is writing; he's a geophysicist.

 

[Tdol]

I understood the meaning of the sentence but was wondering whether the usage of "such that" was correct. As you can read on the site I linked to, some people consider it incorrect.

I suppose "so that" would be the best option.

I'm not a scientist, but as a casual reader so that is more natural to me.