surface-mounted / wall-mounted

[Ksenia]

Hello.

Please take a look at the picture attached. The letters are shown on surface-mounted (not flush-mounted) panels. Panels are wall-mounted. How can I combine surface-mounted and wall-mounted into one sentence? Can it be as follows?

The letters are displayed on a surface- and wall mounted panel above the elevator portal in the center.

Thank you.

 

[SoothingDave]

Is it really important for the audience to know that these are both surface- and wall-mounted? You have a photo, right?

Why not "The letters are displayed on a panel mounted above the elevator portal in the center"?

 

[Skrej]

I'm really not sure what you're trying to say or why you're even trying to say it. Are you just wanting to describe the keypad or the housing for the keypad? If I understand, you're wanting to describe the keypad in relation to the housing panel, and then the housing panel to the wall?

Regardless, from a user perspective (in case of directions), all the user needs to know is where the panel is. Distinguishing between various mounting types of the keypad on the device and the device on the wall is 100% pointless, confusing, and unnecessary. None of these details affect the user experience, so why include them?

The letters are displayed on a surface- and wall mounted panel above the elevator portal in the center.

What do you mean by elevator 'portal'? Where is this keypad located? It's unclear from the image (I actually thought it was a hand-held device at first). This sounds like the keypad is above the elevator doors!

Additionally, while I suppose 'displayed' works, I'm not sure it's the best verb. If I understand the layout, then something as simple as the following works:

The lettters are on a panel between the elevator doors.

 

[emsr2d2]

The letters are on a panel between the elevator doors.

I'd take that to mean that they're between the left and right door of one elevator, which is impossible. I might say "The letters are on a panel on the wall between the elevators".

 

[Ksenia]

Is it really important for the audience to know that these are both surface- and wall-mounted? You have a photo, right?

Why not "The letters are displayed on a panel mounted above the elevator portal in the center"?

Yes, it's important to emphasize that these panels are both surface- and wall-mounted.
It will be sent to s supplier who will responsible for the construction of elevators.
All the subtleties should be taken into account.

 

[Ksenia]

Regardless, from a user perspective (in case of directions), all the user needs to know is where the panel is. Distinguishing between various mounting types of the keypad on the device and the device on the wall is 100% pointless, confusing, and unnecessary. None of these details affect the user experience, so why include them?

I wrote the reason why it's importance to mentioned above.

What do you mean by elevator 'portal'? Where is this keypad located? It's unclear from the image (I actually thought it was a hand-held device at first). This sounds like the keypad is above the elevator doors!

I mean that the letters 'A' and 'B' are above he elevator.
It's highly important for a supplier to know where the letters are while manufacturing elevators.

 

[Ksenia]

I'd take that to mean that they're between the left and right door of one elevator, which is impossible. I might say "The letters are on a panel on the wall between the elevators".

I can't understand how the letters are between the elevators if they are on the panel above the elevators ('A' is above the elevator and 'B' is above the elevator).

 

[emsr2d2]

At no point did I have any idea we were talking about the letters "A" and "B" above the elevators. I thought we were talking about the panel of multiple buttons on the left of the original photo. Like Skrej, I initially thought it was some sort of tablet because it looks like the man is holding it in his left hand (not shown) and pressing a button with his right. To be honest, that photo doesn't help me understand how this system works. Why doesn't the building just have a sign at the front listing all the floors and which elevator you need to use to get to it?

Did you start this thread so that you can explain to English speakers how the system works or are you actually asking us to create a technical write-up for the manufacturer (which will presumably go with detailed plans/schematics)?

 

[Ksenia]

Did you start this thread so that you can explain to English speakers how the system works or are you actually asking us to create a technical write-up for the manufacturer (which will presumably go with detailed plans/schematics)?

Yes, exactly.
need to create a technical write-up for the manufacturer (which will go with detailed plans/schematics). I need to describe how these paned should be manufactured. It's crucially important to write that these panels are surface- and wall-mounted.
My question is how can I combine these two words in one sentence? Because using 'mounted' twice is awkward to me. So, can I say hat the letters are on a surface- and wall mounted panel above the elevators in the center?

 

[emsr2d2]

Yes, exactly. I need to create a technical write-up for the manufacturer (which will go with detailed plans/schematics). I need to describe how these paned panels should be manufactured. It's crucially important to write that these panels are surface- and wall-mounted.
My question is how can I combine these two words in one sentence no question mark here because using 'mounted' twice is awkward to me? So, Can I say that the letters are on a surface- and wall mounted panel above the elevators in the center?

Now I don't even know what you mean by "surface- and wall-mounted". A wall IS a surface. The wall is the surface that anything is mounted on. Also, I still don't know if we're talking about the panel of buttons or the signs that just say "A" and "B". This thread is becoming less clear post by post!

 

[jutfrank]

Also, four questions that quickly arise for me:

1) If the text has to be technically precise, why don't you get ChatGPT or something to do this for you?

2) Why do you want to use just one sentence to say two things?

3) Why does it matter if it sounds awkward? The point is that you have to be clear, right?

4) If it's crucially important to emphasise that the panels are both wall-mounted and surface-mounted, then why don't you say "It's crucially important to emphasise that panels are both wall-mounted and surface-mounted" in big bold letters?

I guess that one of the things that we're all wondering is what kind of text this is. Is it a list of instructions? Is it prose? Is it an email? Who's going to read it? An engineer? A designer? What kind of text do you think these people will expect?