to rate with somebody as

[Shenfeng]

Hey again,

what do you make of the following?

"How do I rate with you as a surgeon?"

Is this the same as asking "How do you rate me as a surgeon?" ?

Does the fact that the inquirer puts himself first make "with" necessary?


Thanks.

 

[Shenfeng]

How do I rate with you as a surgeon? - Tell me how good of a surgeon do you think that I am.
How do I rate you as a surgeon - What method should I use to determine how good of a surgeon you are?

Thank you.

So "How do you rate me as a surgeon?" is ambiguous?

1) What method do you use to tell how good of a surgeon I am?
2) How good do you think I am as a surgeon?


Would 1) be still grammatically correct if I dropped the "of" in "good of a surgeon"?

 

[Shenfeng]

Hmm, so

How do I rate you as a surgeon - What method should I use to determine how good of a surgeon you are?

means what it means, because it's the only way it makes sense, and

"How do you rate me as a surgeon?" can never mean "What method would you use to determine how good of a surgeon I am?" ?

 

[Shenfeng]

Be careful of words like "never." How do you rate the speed of an automobile? By a speedometer, by comparing graphs illustrating the speed, by asking someone?

How do you rate me has a number of interpertations -
#1. Am I a good surgeon (How do you feel about my skills)
#2. Am I being compared to other surgeons on a predefined chart (What method are you employing to determine if I am a good surgeon)
#3. Are you asking previous patients that I operated on (What method are you employing to determine if I am a good surgeon)

Yeah, that's what I meant by "ambiguous" or is it not the right word for this particular situation?