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[AnaEng]

Hello

Is when and if associated with present and past passive? I think both are used with to talk about actions in present and past with factual examples.

I wrote some examples using present and passive with if and when, are they correct and natural?

1- When the product is arrived to the warehouse, we guarantee 48 hour delivery .

2- If the car is sold online, you would save on any additional charges from car auction and dealer.

3- When The ocean restaurant, a global chinese restaurant in Asia, was opened its first branch in Kuwait, offering wide range of sea food dishes.

4- The company is no longer ship product free of charge; if the shipping fees aren't received, we wouldn't ship it.

With regard to number three, I don't know if (was opened) is correct and not (opened)?

Thanks in advance.

 

[emsr2d2]

Hello.

Remember to end even a one-word sentence with an appropriate closing punctuation mark.

Is Are when and if associated with the present and past passives? I think both are used with to talk about actions in the present and the past with factual examples.

Note my corrections above.

I wrote some examples using present and past passives with if and when. Are they correct and natural?

Note my corrections above.

1- When Once the product is arrived to arrives at the warehouse, we guarantee 48-hour delivery.

See above. "is arrived to" is grammatically incorrect.

2- If the car is sold online, you would save on any additional charges from you would be charged by a car auction house and or a dealer.

See above.

3- When The Ocean Restaurant, a global Chinese restaurant in Asia*, was has opened its first branch in Kuwait, offering a wide range of seafood dishes.

See above. Using "When" at the start didn't work with the rest of the sentence. You would need to say something like "When The Ocean Restaurant opened its first branch in Kuwait, it offered a wide range of seafood dishes".
*If it's only in Asia, it's not global.

4- The company is no longer ships products free of charge; if the shipping fees aren't received paid, we wouldn't won't ship it them.

See above.

With regard to number three, I don't know if "was opened" or "opened" is correct. and not (opened)?

See above, and see my response to #3. Don't use brackets instead of quotation marks.

That was really too many sentences to deal with in one post. In future, please post just one sentence per thread. As you can see, this response is already quite long even though I haven't given a detailed explanation of each error. If you don't understand any of the corrections, please ask about them one at a time.

 

[jutfrank]

Is when and if associated with present and past passive?

No.

I think both are used with to talk about actions in present and past with factual examples.

Not especially, no.

 

[AnaEng]

Hello again.

Sorry for writing four sentences in a thread. Thank you for the corrections. I have two questions regarding the corrections and I hope you don't mind. I can't find answers to.

Once the product is arrived to arrives at the warehouse, we guarantee 48-hour delivery.

See above. "is arrived to" is grammatically incorrect.

First question, Why can't I use is arrived to . Is it because it is associated with "when".? And once instead of when?

Second question deleted by moderator Rover_KE. You were specifically asked to post one question at a time.

 

[emsr2d2]

First question: Why can't I use is arrived to? Is it because it is associated with "when"?

It has nothing to do with "when". The simple fact is that there is absolutely no context or sentence in which "is arrived" is correct.
Arrive (present tense)
Arrived (simple past tense)
Has arrived (present perfect)
Had arrived (past perfect)

And once instead of when?

I have no idea what this means.

 

[AnaEng]

Thanks.

Another question if you please.

We can say, "If the car is sold online"... as the second sentence (the present passive is used) ,but we can't say, "The Ocean Restaurant (was ) opened its first branch in Kuwait"... as in the third sentence.

I have no idea why "is sold" is used with car and no be passive voice verb with "opened" I am really struggling with using present and past passives and when not.

 

[jutfrank]

The verb 'arrive' is an intransitive verb. This means that it cannot have a direct object and therefore cannot be used in the passive voice.

 

[AnaEng]

The verb 'arrive' is an intransitive verb. This means that it cannot have a direct object and therefore cannot be used in the passive voice.

Hi. @jutfrank Teacher and thank you. Please go over my comment and comment on it. Thanks

Thank you. I'm really interested in understanding this grammar point.

1 When your order is placed online, it is delivered to delivery point.

In the example above, the transitive verb "delivered" and the direct object is "delivery point". Since it is intransitive verb, I can use present passive or past passive,but I have to is in when clause to was.

2 Once/When you placed an order, your order arrived at your postal address.

Unlike sentence 1, arrived is intransitive so we can't say " your order (is arrived at) because it is intransitive.

 

[jutfrank]

In the example above, the transitive verb "delivered"

Yes.

and the direct object is "delivery point"

No.

Since it is intransitive verb

No.

I can use present passive or past passive

Yes.

but I have to is in when clause to was.

No.

arrived is intransitive

Yes.

so we can't say " your order (is arrived at) because it is intransitive.

Yes.

 

[Tarheel]

In my humble opinion it would be better if you talk about sentences that are actually used.