Already + have

[Nightmare85]

Hey
I'm not fully sure about the position of "already".
P1: Do you need a car?
P2: No, I already have one.
P2: No, I have already one.
P2: No, I have one already.

The first answer sounds best to me, and I hope that you agree.

Cheers!

 

[ratóncolorao]

Hey
I'm not fully sure about the position of "already".
P1: Do you need a car?
P2: No, I already have one.
P2: No, I have already one.
P2: No, I have one already.

The first answer sounds best to me, and I hope that you agree.

Cheers!

If we follow the rule:

To be + already
already + verb. - when there is no auxiliary.
If you want to add emphasis, it can be placed at the beginning of a sentence.

So, I would choose the first example too.

Neither a teacher nor a native English speaker.

 

[emsr2d2]

Hey
I'm not fully sure about the position of "already".
P1: Do you need a car?
P2: No, I already have one.
P2: No, I have already one.
P2: No, I have one already.

The first answer sounds best to me, and I hope that you agree.

Cheers!

If we follow the rule:

To be + already
already + verb. - when there is no auxiliary.
If you want to add emphasis, it can be placed at the beginning of a sentence.

So, I would choose the first example too.

Neither a teacher nor a native English speaker.

When you say it can be placed at the beginning of a sentence, I assume you don't mean that you think we can say "Already I have one"?

 

[ratóncolorao]

When you say it can be placed at the beginning of a sentence, I assume you don't mean that you think we can say "Already I have one"?

I am giving a general rule about the use of "already" - following the Reverso dictionary : Already, he has a villa in Rome.
Définition "already" - Dictionnaire anglais pour apprenants Collins Cobuild English Dictionary & Thesaurus, orthographe "already" - Reverso

Although, I must say, I have never seen it before.
I will go on searching for more examples.

 

[ratóncolorao]

I have found another example - told by a native English-American person:
Already I drank a beer this morning.

Cheerio

 

[emsr2d2]

I have found another example - told by a native English-American person:
Already I drank a beer this morning.

Cheerio

Wow, I'm surprised to hear that!

 

[bhaisahab]

Wow, I'm surprised to hear that!

Americans are liable to say anything.;-) Seriously, I think I remember reading somewhere that this structure has something to do with Yiddish.

 

[2006]

I have found another example - told by a native English-American person:
Already I drank a beer this morning.

Cheerio

'I already drank a beer this morning.' would be much more common.

 

[emsr2d2]

'I already drank a beer this morning.' would be much more common.

Having thought about it, I can imagine someone saying "Already today, I've had three beers!" but not very common.

 

[Nightmare85]

Thank you, guys.
However, please let us not mix things.

I'm not talking about the "Simple Past" or "Present Perfect" already.
I'm aware of the fact that it's common to say:
I already drank a beer. (Perfect for AmE.)
I have already drunk a beer. (Perfect for BrE.)

But as said, I'm talking about something different.
Anyway, I believe ratóncolorao has already answered the question.
P1: Do you need a car?
P2: No, I already have one. :up:

Cheers!

 

[kfredson]

Hey
I'm not fully sure about the position of "already".
P1: Do you need a car?
P2: No, I already have one.
P2: No, I have already one.
P2: No, I have one already.

The first answer sounds best to me, and I hope that you agree.

Cheers!

The first one may be best but I often hear the third (and never the second.) I think it is a matter of emphasis. Of course, in AmE we can say (almost) anything!;-)

 

[Nightmare85]

Of course, in AmE we can say (almost) anything!;-)

Thanks.
Believe me, even in BrE people like to say things like, "I already played against him", instead of, "I have already played against him.", and many other things.
Maybe it doesn't depend on a language but on people ;-)

Cheers!

 

[emsr2d2]

Thanks.
Believe me, even in BrE people like to say things like, "I already played against him", instead of, "I have already played against him.", and many other things.
Maybe it doesn't depend on a language but on people ;-)

Cheers!

You do hear both, it's true but, for my part (as a BrE speaker), if I was asked "Have you already played him?" my answer would be "Yes, I've already played him", not "I already...."

 

[Nightmare85]

You do hear both, it's true but, for my part (as a BrE speaker), if I was asked "Have you already played him?" my answer would be "Yes, I've already played him", not "I already...."

Sure, but I think even Americans would not insist on their "I already" if they got asked such a question. ;-)
Or at least they would only say, "Yes."

Guys, I have another question.
(I did not want to create an extra thread.)
What about this sentence:
I thought you already had a car.
Should we use:
I thought you already have had a car.
(Of course the person still has his car!)

P.S: I believe Americans would simply use #1, would Britons do the same?

Cheers!

 

[emsr2d2]

Sure, but I think even Americans would not insist on their "I already" if they got asked such a question. ;-)
Or at least they would only say, "Yes."

Guys, I have another question.
(I did not want to create an extra thread.)
What about this sentence:
I thought you already had a car.
Should we use:
I thought you already have had a car.
(Of course the person still has his car!)

P.S: I believe Americans would simply use #1, would Britons do the same?

Cheers!

I would only use "I thought you already had a car?!"

However, in the interrogative, I would say "Don't you already have a car?"

I cannot think of any situation where "I thought you already have had a car" could be grammatically correct.

If someone said to me "I've just bought my first car", I would be able to say "I thought you had had a car before".

 

[2006]

Believe me, even in BrE people like to say things like, "I already played against him", instead of, "I have already played against him."

Cheers!

How is the second sentence better than the first?

 

[Nightmare85]

How is the second sentence better than the first?

It's not better but the "rules" say, "Don't use already with Simple Past."
(This is the case for BrE.)

Cheers!

 

[philadelphia]

*Not a teacher as you know

I would use already like this:

I already have one.
I have already had one.
I already had one.
I have one, already[I sometimes put already at the end of the sentence to emphasize the meaning.]

Do you already have one?
Have you already had one?
Did you already have one?

 

[bhaisahab]

*Not a teacher as you know

I would use already like this:

I already have one.
I have already had one.
I already had one.
I have one, already[I sometimes put already at the end of the sentence to emphasize the meaning.]

Do you already have one?
Have you already had one?
Did you already have one?

"I already had one" is not correct in BrE.

 

[2006]

It's not better but the "rules" say, "Don't use already with Simple Past." Well then that's a strange rule.
(This is the case for BrE.)

Cheers!

2006