First time to see/seeing

Yb167

Member
Joined
Dec 23, 2023
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Tagalog
Home Country
Philippines
Current Location
Philippines
Can someone tell me the difference between these two?

1. Is this your first time to see someone do a backflip?

2. Is this your first time seeing someone do a backflip?
 

Tarheel

VIP Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2014
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
I don't know. Have you heard both of them? (See below.)

Abe: Is this the first time you've seen someone do a backflip?
Bob: Yes. It's amazing! How do they do that?
 

Yb167

Member
Joined
Dec 23, 2023
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Tagalog
Home Country
Philippines
Current Location
Philippines
I don't know. Have you heard both of them? (See below.)

Abe: Is this the first time you've seen someone do a backflip?
Bob: Yes. It's amazing! How do they oh
Yup. Are they incorrect?
 

Tarheel

VIP Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2014
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Are they your sentences?
 

Yb167

Member
Joined
Dec 23, 2023
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Tagalog
Home Country
Philippines
Current Location
Philippines
Are they your sentences?
No, my friend asked me that(he used the first one) but he admitted that he was torn between using the 'to verb' or 'verb ing' before asking me the question as he has no idea which one is correct in the given context.
 

Yb167

Member
Joined
Dec 23, 2023
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Tagalog
Home Country
Philippines
Current Location
Philippines
Where did you hear them?
From my friend. He asked me the former but I also see most of my online friends use the latter. Are they incorrect? If they aren't, do you see any difference between the two?
 

Tarheel

VIP Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2014
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
@Yb167 You said you had heard both of those unlikely sentences. As for my opinion, they mean the same thing. I don't have a preference.
 

BobK

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 29, 2006
Location
Spencers Wood, near Reading, UK
Member Type
Retired English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
UK
I have used the first (in BE) to refer to a new experience: "It's my first time seeing <phenomenon>'; but I'd more commonly say 'That's the first time I've [ever] seen <phenomenon>'.

I've heard the version with 'to see', but it doesn't feel right to me.
 

teechar

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Feb 18, 2015
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
Iraq
Current Location
Iraq
1. Is this your first time to see someone do a backflip?
For me, this works if, for example, the person being spoken to hasn't seen the backflip yet. Perhaps they're being interviewed by a TV presenter, just before they witness the backflip.
2. Is this your first time seeing someone do a backflip?
For me, this works if, for example, the person being spoken to is in the middle of watching a backflip competition. Again, perhaps they're being interviewed by someone who might ask them such a question.
 

Tarheel

VIP Member
Joined
Jun 16, 2014
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
I see. It's a gymnastics competition. Somebody there is being interviewed for some unknown reason. The interviewer asks that person for some unknown reason if that person has ever seen a backflip before. (See below.)

Interviewer,: Have you ever seen a backflip before?
Person: Yes, I have. Why do you ask?
Interviewer: I don't know. I couldn't think of anything else to say.
Person: You do know where we are, don't you?
 

tedmc

VIP Member
Joined
Apr 16, 2014
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
Chinese
Home Country
Malaysia
Current Location
Malaysia
I think "seeing" fits most, if not all cases.
 

emsr2d2

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 28, 2009
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
UK
I would never use the -ing form in such a question. I agree that it's the only correct option after "Is this your first time ...?" but I would always express this question as "Is the the first time you have ...?"
 

teechar

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Feb 18, 2015
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
Iraq
Current Location
Iraq
but I would always express this question as "Is the the first time you have ...?"
But what if they haven't yet done it?
 

emsr2d2

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 28, 2009
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
UK
But what if they haven't yet done it?
If I already knew they hadn't done it, there'd be no reason to ask the question.
 

teechar

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Feb 18, 2015
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
Iraq
Current Location
Iraq
They could be about to do it.
 

emsr2d2

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 28, 2009
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
British English
Home Country
UK
Current Location
UK
They could be about to do it.
If we're still talking about the backflip, and I knew for certain that someone was about to do a backflip, I'd ask "Have you ever seen anyone do a backflip before?" If the person said "Yes", there'd be nothing else to say. If they said "No", I might say "You're about to be really impressed then!"
 
Top