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[navi tasan]

Are these sentences correct:

1) He supported the government, including its foreign policy.

2) He wanted to work for the government, which he supported, including its foreign policy.


Gratefully,
Navi.

 

[tedmc]

There shouldn't be a comma after "government" in No.2.

not a teacher

 

[MikeNewYork]

I disagree about the comma. The relative clause does not define government, unless there is more than one government.

 

[navi tasan]

Thank you very much Mike,

So both sentences are correct?

Gratefully,
Navi.

 

[MikeNewYork]

Yes. They work for me.

 

[navi tasan]

Thank you very much Mike.

What do you think of these:

Are these sentences correct:

3) He supported the government, particularly its foreign policy.

4) He wanted to work for the government, which he supported, particularly its foreign policy.


Gratefully,
Navi.

 

[tedmc]

He wanted to work for the government, which he supported, particularly its foreign policy.

He wanted to work for the government which he supported, particularly its foreign policy.

I disagree about the comma. The relative clause does not define government, unless there is more than one government.

Mike
I don't get it. Why do you need the pause or comma after 'government'? What purpose does it serve?
What is wrong with 'working with the government which he supported'?

 

[Matthew Wai]

Why do you need the pause or comma after 'government'?

A comma is needed before a non-defining relative clause.

What is wrong with 'working with the government which he supported'?

If there was a 'government which he supported', then there should be another government which he did not support.

Not a teacher.

 

[MikeNewYork]

They are OK, Navi.

 

[MikeNewYork]

Ted, I agree with Matthew. There is a difference between defining (restrictive) and non-defining (non-restrictive) clauses.

 

[tedmc]

The (not "a") government or other governments that he did not support is a moot point here.

 

[MikeNewYork]

Grammatically, it is not.

 

[Matthew Wai]

If 'the government that he did not support' did not exist, you would not use 'the government that he supported' to refer to a different government.

Not a teacher.

 

[Tdol]

The (not "a") government or other governments that he did not support is a moot point here.

The government which he supported has fallen. (He supported one government out of a number of them, and it has fallen.)
The government, which he supported, has fallen. (There's only one government in the picture here and it has fallen. We also learn that he supported it.)