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Can one shorten "It has offset obligations and similar obligations vis-a-vis" to "it has offset and similar obligations vis-a-vis" without changing the meaning?

Thanks a lot!
 
What is the context?

A full sentence would be helpful.

Rover
 
What is the context?

A full sentence would be helpful.

Rover

That was pretty much the whole sentence.

"It has offset and similar obligations vis-a-vis the state of X."
 
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Thank you!
 
That was pretty much the whole sentence.

"It has offset and similar obligations vis-a-vis the state of X."
It doesn't make a great deal of sense Jasmine. What exactly are you trying to say?
 
It doesn't make a great deal of sense Jasmine. What exactly are you trying to say?

"It has offset obligations and similar obligations vis-a-vis the state of X."

Can the above sentence be written as "It has offset and similar obligations vis-a-vis the state of X"? Judging by your response, I would say no.

If you don't know what an offset obligation is, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offset_agreement.
 
"It has offset obligations and similar obligations vis-a-vis the state of X."

Can the above sentence be written as "It has offset and similar obligations vis-a-vis the state of X"? Judging by your response, I would say no.

If you don't know what an offset obligation is, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offset_agreement.
No, I don't know what an "offset obligation" is; unfortunately your link doesn't work. If an "offset obligation" exists as an entity, then your suggested sentence could work.
 
No, I don't know what an "offset obligation" is; unfortunately your link doesn't work. If an "offset obligation" exists as an entity, then your suggested sentence could work.

Hmm, the link works for me (Offset agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).

So what you're saying is, "It has offset and similar obligations ...." would work if the term "offset obligation" really does exist. Right?

Thank you.
 
I do not think so. An offset obligation is a very specific agreement between sovereign states, if indeed that is a specific part of your question. Similar agreements would also have to be called offset, otherwise they would not be offset.

Offset occurs in the financial world and particularly in banking, and has now spread to mortgages. You may well therefore find similar agreements to these types of agreements.

The offset obligation you have referred to has a well known format, within which there may be, and in reality are, many differences depending upon the requirements of each state. But there are no similar agreements unless they are offset ones. There may well be other obligations between the same parties but they would not be similar.
 
I do not think so. An offset obligation is a very specific agreement between sovereign states, if indeed that is a specific part of your question. Similar agreements would also have to be called offset, otherwise they would not be offset.

Offset occurs in the financial world and particularly in banking, and has now spread to mortgages. You may well therefore find similar agreements to these types of agreements.

The offset obligation you have referred to has a well known format, within which there may be, and in reality are, many differences depending upon the requirements of each state. But there are no similar agreements unless they are offset ones. There may well be other obligations between the same parties but they would not be similar.

Thank you very much for your lenghty explanation.

But assuming that obligations similar to offset obligations do exist, could one say "It has offset and similar obligations"?

Thank you once again.
 
But they do not. Why try to say something that infers a lack of knowledge or understanding?
By trying to shorten the sentence (by one word!) you give an incorrect impression. An offset obligation is a special one and quite specific. There can be other obligations but they are not similar to any offset obligation. You must know that the O/Os have two main categories, or types, and if you study all of them you will see that each one is a specific obligation as an essential part of the agreement.
 
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